Call for white balance finetuning samples

Here is my output from the Sony Alpha 6000:

WB RGB Levels                   : 703 256 441
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 2816 1024 1024 1768
WB RGGB Levels                  : 3456 1024 1024 1388
WB RGB Levels Daylight          : 2816 1024 1768
WB RGB Levels Cloudy            : 3024 1024 1624
WB RGB Levels Tungsten          : 1784 1024 3176
WB RGB Levels Flash             : 3196 1024 1624
WB RGB Levels 4500K             : 2556 1024 1992
WB RGB Levels Shade             : 3308 1024 1460
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent       : 2564 1024 2604
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P1    : 2716 1024 1872
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P2    : 3032 1024 1696
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent M1    : 2052 1024 3136
WB RGB Levels 8500K             : 3468 1024 1384
WB RGB Levels 6000K             : 3000 1024 1636
WB RGB Levels 3200K             : 1984 1024 2756
WB RGB Levels 2500K             : 1560 1024 3824
White Balance                   : Daylight
White Point                     : 0.313 0.329
Make                            : SONY
Camera Model Name               : ILCE-6000
WB Shift AB GM                  : 7 0
White Balance Fine Tune         : 0

Edit:

WB RGB Levels                   : 703 255 441
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 2816 1024 1024 1768
WB RGGB Levels                  : 3356 1024 1024 1436
WB RGB Levels Daylight          : 2816 1024 1768
WB RGB Levels Cloudy            : 3024 1024 1624
WB RGB Levels Tungsten          : 1784 1024 3176
WB RGB Levels Flash             : 3196 1024 1624
WB RGB Levels 4500K             : 2556 1024 1992
WB RGB Levels Shade             : 3308 1024 1460
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent       : 2564 1024 2604
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P1    : 2716 1024 1872
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P2    : 3032 1024 1696
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent M1    : 2052 1024 3136
WB RGB Levels 8500K             : 3468 1024 1384
WB RGB Levels 6000K             : 3000 1024 1636
WB RGB Levels 3200K             : 1984 1024 2756
WB RGB Levels 2500K             : 1560 1024 3824
White Balance                   : Daylight
White Point                     : 0.313 0.329
Make                            : SONY
Camera Model Name               : ILCE-6000
WB Shift AB GM                  : 6 0
White Balance Fine Tune         : 0

You want a particular preset? I did notice that mine (sunny) and Coding_Dave (cloudy) do differ. Or do you want both (and more?)?

hi @mrwsl! that’s perfect! thanks!
btw: welcome to pixls.us!

Nope! can be any named preset :slight_smile:

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The output might suggest this isn’t -5.5 but it is. I double checked and redid the images twice:

Preset sunny and -5.5

WB RB Levels                    : 2.09765625 1.2109375 1 1
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D750
White Balance Fine Tune         : -6 0   <---  is -5.5 double checked

Preset sunny and -5.0

WB RB Levels                    : 2.08203125 1.22265625 1 1
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D750
White Balance Fine Tune         : -5 0

In camera (info screen, not the amber-blue change screen) I can see that the offset is A 5.5, might be a rounding thingy in exiftool?

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This MIGHT be a problem in exiftool if the info is in exif… according to https://exiftool.org/TagNames/Nikon.html it’s int16[n] so it’s integer… damn… this complicates nikon stuff a bit :confused:

Of course.

WB GRB Levels Standard          : 302 387 690 17 302 665 408 21
WB GRB Levels Auto              : 302 564 514
WB GRB Levels                   : 302 580 470
White Balance                   : Daylight
Make                            : FUJIFILM
Camera Model Name               : X-T1
White Balance Fine Tune         : Red +0, Blue -160
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This is probably a Nikon thing:

$ exiv2 -pa D75_0715.NEF | egrep -i "white|wb"
Exif.Image.ReferenceBlackWhite               Rational    6  0/1 255/1 0/1 255/1 0/1 255/1
Exif.Nikon3.WhiteBalance                     Ascii      13  SUNNY       
Exif.Nikon3.WhiteBalanceBias                 SShort      2  -6 0     <----- -6 instead of -5.5
Exif.Nikon3.WB_RBLevels                      Rational    4  537/256 310/256 256/256 256/256
Exif.NikonCb2b.WB_RGGBLevels                 Short       4  1236 64700 60476 44188
Exif.Photo.WhiteBalance                      Short       1  Manual
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Here’s the output from my Pentax K-1:

White Balance : Daylight
White Point : 19392 8192 8192 12256
Make : RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera Model Name : PENTAX K-1
WB Shift AB : -7

White Balance : Daylight
White Point : 19104 8192 8192 12448
Make : RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera Model Name : PENTAX K-1
WB Shift AB : -6

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@Thomas_Gulmark
Hallojsa!

Welcome!

Mvh
Claes fra Lund, Sverige

Hey @Thomas_Gulmark! welcome to the community and thanks for this! Pentax now added to list of sane exif data for wb finetuning :slight_smile:

Ha! I’ve just read that when coming to post my results :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Anyway, just in case the model makes a difference, 5D mk II:

WB RGGB Levels As Shot          : 2433 1024 1024 1438
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 2144 1024 1024 1708
WB RGGB Levels Measured         : 2144 1024 1024 1708
WB RGGB Levels Daylight         : 2144 1024 1024 1708
WB RGGB Levels Shade            : 2467 1024 1024 1411
WB RGGB Levels Cloudy           : 2310 1024 1024 1540
WB RGGB Levels Tungsten         : 1637 1103 1103 2897
WB RGGB Levels Fluorescent      : 1890 1048 1048 2548
WB RGGB Levels Kelvin           : 1712 1067 1067 2508
WB RGGB Levels Flash            : 2325 1024 1024 1522
WB RGGB Levels                  : 2433 1024 1024 1438
White Balance                   : Daylight
Make                            : Canon
Camera Model Name               : Canon EOS 5D Mark II
WB Shift AB                     : 9

750D:

WB RGGB Levels As Shot          : 2551 1024 1024 1509
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 2236 1024 1024 1736
WB RGGB Levels Measured         : 2236 1024 1024 1736
WB RGGB Levels Daylight         : 2236 1024 1024 1736
WB RGGB Levels Shade            : 2589 1024 1024 1485
WB RGGB Levels Cloudy           : 2411 1024 1024 1601
WB RGGB Levels Tungsten         : 1563 1024 1024 2539
WB RGGB Levels Fluorescent      : 1896 1024 1024 2367
WB RGGB Levels Kelvin           : 2236 1024 1024 1736
WB RGGB Levels Flash            : 2485 1024 1024 1579
WB RGGB Levels                  : 2551 1024 1024 1509
White Balance                   : Daylight
Make                            : Canon
Camera Model Name               : Canon EOS 750D
WB Shift AB                     : 9

Hi!
This is for Lumix FZ1000:
WB RGB Levels 1 : 603 256 470
WB RGB Levels 2 : 649 256 427
WB RGB Levels 3 : 684 256 404
WB RGB Levels 4 : 432 256 686
WB RGB Levels 5 : 641 256 448
WB RGB Levels 6 : 605 256 480
WB RGB Levels 7 : 432 256 686
WB CFA0 Level Daylight : 1024
WB CFA1 Level Daylight : 2420
WB CFA2 Level Daylight : 1923
WB CFA3 Level Daylight : 1024
WB Red Level Auto : 2425
WB Blue Level Auto : 1895
White Balance : Daylight
Make : Panasonic
Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ1000
WB Shift AB : -9
WB Shift Intelligent Auto : 0
WB Shift Creative Control : 0

And Fuji xt20:
WB GRB Levels Standard : 302 373 875 17 302 627 486 21
WB GRB Levels Auto : 302 362 942
WB GRB Levels : 302 555 562
White Balance : Daylight
Make : FUJIFILM
Camera Model Name : X-T20
White Balance Fine Tune : Red +180, Blue -180

And this verified my observation that I’m not good at following my own directions and my sample instead towards amber was towards blue :stuck_out_tongue: I hope everyone here actually adjusted towards amber :stuck_out_tongue:

Thanks! this is 2nd fuji sample but it differs from @Claes’s one… It seemed to only affect Blue part… Can you do one step before amber (and make sure you’re only on amber/blue dimmension and not on magenta/green one?)

This is the setting I used, is that what you need? :

You made me look :slight_smile:. At least for Canon,

WB Shift AB: 9 <--- positive number

corresponds to “A9” in the camera interface, with the point in the “A” edge of the 2D color map.

Oh! That’ll help me with writting wiki for it! thank you!

I needed 0 on green-magenta axis (so in your case - centered horizontal axis and maximally down on vertical axis). If I’m not mistaken it would then read R: 0 B: -9 in camera :slight_smile:

Yep, exactly!

You are welcome!
Just to be sure: do you want the opposite of blue, i.e. yellow, or the opposite of cyan, i.e. orange?
Because on my lumix camera the B-A axis goes from cyan to orange, but on my fuji camera the B axis goes from blue to yellow…

Opposite of blue :slight_smile:

It’s really weird on cameras:
On canon on one side you’ve got pure red and on another pure blue.
On nikon it seems to go from cyan to redish-orange
on fuji from blue to yellow
on panasonic from cyan to orange…

It’s hard to adequatly say which axis needs to be changed and that’s why I think it’s important for me to know and be able to help others :slight_smile:

In my Olympus EM-1 Mark 1 I can finetune (never used that before …) between ±7A and ±7 G

I’ve used A+7, G0. I hope it’s that what you need…

White Balance 2 : 5300K (Fine Weather)
White Balance Temperature : 5300
White Balance Bracket : 7 0
WB RB Levels : 548 374 256 256
WB RB Levels 3000K : 282 772 256 256
WB RB Levels 3300K : 344 618 256 256
WB RB Levels 3600K : 368 570 256 256
WB RB Levels 3900K : 392 532 256 256
WB RB Levels 4000K : 476 610 256 256
WB RB Levels 4300K : 418 506 256 256
WB RB Levels 4500K : 466 516 256 256
WB RB Levels 4800K : 452 468 256 256
WB RB Levels 5300K : 482 436 256 256
WB RB Levels 6000K : 518 400 256 256
WB RB Levels 6600K : 552 428 256 256
WB RB Levels 7500K : 562 346 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB1 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB2 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB3 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB4 : 384 384 256 256
White Balance : Manual
White Balance : Manual
White Balance 2 : 5300K (Fine Weather)
Make : OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
Camera Model Name : E-M1

Yes it is! Thanks! So olympus uses WhiteBalanceBracket :slight_smile: that’ll help :slight_smile: