These photos are done by Jason Lanier and not by Ken Wheeler or am I wrong?
You are correct.
Men Wheelerâs Instagram is pretty weak. Looks like snapshots and reposts.
More angry than photographer, indeed.
Ah OK sorry I thought Lanier was the guy in the video too. I donât know who either of these guys are so I assumed we were talking about one person.
But he peals potatoes with Light Room ŽŠ⢠so nicely âŚ
My not so friendly duck says go away you Jamie Oliver impersonator
FUD marketing strategy is not quite freedom of speech
Neither is patent trolling
This poor chap is somehow bound to Adobe products although he hates them. Has someone contact to him and can invite him to provide a photo for play RAW here? Would be glad to show if this âgarbage wareâ is some âmillion milesâ away from Lightr⌠no I mean from âPhotoshopâ.
He seems to get views by being negative, so Iâd say just let him be.
Being negative is fine, possibly even constructive. But letâs not mistake ânegativeâ with âtoxicâ.
First they ignore you: it was the case when Darktable was not as powerful as it is today
Then they laugh at you: we are discussing about this on this postâŚ
Then they figth you;
Then you win.
With commercial softwares there are always many reviewers who bash other commercial softwares in order to promote their products.
For instance, I am bored to death to read on the net articles with a âneutralâ photographer who suggests in his blog to dump Lightroom in order to adopt Capture OneâŚ
EDIT: I have never tried Lightroom. I am a happy RawTherapee user.
EDIT:
IMHO, to be fair, you have to admit that this guy has a point when he says that it does not make any sense to propose a software to a photographer only because it is freeâŚ
On the Net, you often read about some users suggesting to dump Photoshop and adopt Gimp because it is free. If they are âgeeky techiesâ they often precise you can even download the source code as a bonusâŚ
I wouldnât know how to get in touch with Mr. Wheeler, but perhaps someone could present a challenge to him. Let him see if he could definitively pick which, out of a series of photos, were edited by Adobe or by Darktable. If itâ's âgarbageware,â his masterful eyes should certainly be able to tell the difference, right? Just a thought. Anybody know how to get in touch with him?
True, if youâre spending thousands on gear, then price might not be a huge issue. But âfreeâ as in âwithout costâ is not the type of free that is important to me.
The important part is having the freedom to control my toolchain as I see fit. No phoning home, no automatic updating, no minimum version requirent. It also means that as long as I have a platform that can run some version of the software, I can use my files.
So âfreeâ as in cost is a misunderstanding on his part.
The car metaphor he uses is weird as well. Are Adobe products supposed to be racing slicks?
BTW, you get similar comments when you write âCanon colors are betterâ in a Sony forum
There is no misunderstanding, since there is no rational cognitive process going on there (you canât misunderstand what you didnât try to understand at all). Wheelerâs business is to start controversies, not to evaluate options and report his conclusions in order to, maybe, let viewers make their own mind.
darktable is garbage. Why ? The image quality is not good ? The workflow is sub-optimal ? The interface is ugly ? The controls are confusing ? Some cameras are not well managed ? It runs too slow ? It crashes unexpectedly ? (Side note : I wouldnât have started working on it if it was perfect, and @hanatos wouldnât have restarted a vkdt from scratch, so we are well aware it sucks on many aspects, thanks).
We will never know, because itâs not the point. The point is to piss-off people so his shit channel gets viral. And proof is here, it worked.
Thatâs why Iâm against inviting him, or ever trying to discuss with him. This kind of people is toxic, nothing good will come out of it and they will never change their mind because there is no mind in there. Put them in an asylum or in the White House, but I donât want them in my mail box. They are big children throwing toys away to get noticed.
Iâm probably the most negative person around here, and I swear a lot too, every day, on open-sourcery (GTK, PulseAudio, Gnome, LittleCMS2, lately : libheifâŚ), the difference is I didnât started a channel to rant, I learned C to fix the stuff that pisses me off and holds me down. Everyone his own ethics I guess.
I have seen his videos and as someone has mentioned you never see him discussing âPhotographyâ but will talk about gears and software etc. and that also from not actually using it!
I think he must be suffering from acute case of Haemorrhoid by constantly sitting on his fat ass, eating and vomiting venom.
Well, these are photos from Jason who was the âgoodâ part in the mentioned shootout. The âbadâ and angry Ken is the one who criticizes open source.
200000 subscribers isnât really much. And the average views of each video is well below 10000. Is that really enough to make a living? I donât think so. And it isnât viral.
this guy was and still is a dumb-talker with too much time ⌠nothing more to say
Thereâs no point to that. Trust me.
Letâs just say Iâm no stranger to his history thanks to his frequent BS regarding Sony cameras. Heâs all about clickbait and not any form of truth or accuracy.
Great response Pierre. But I still think itâs best to delete this thread, even if it means we lose all the witty retorts. This guyâs channel does not deserve promotion here.
Ok, I finally saw the video, well, part of it, just to see that it was actually about. I have no idea what his photo skill are, maybe they are really good, but the way he presents this topic is very shallow in details. It lacks the why.
Of course, I means, come one, darktable really sux big time when it comes to layers