darktable softproofing query - the short version

My prints come back a little darker and greyer than whats shown on screen, do I

• move print to brighter patch of wall
• decrease monitor brightness and or increase exposure and hope for the best (guessy)
• invest in monitor calibration kit (spendy)
• match dt softproof profile to export profile (hoping for too much?)
• ask nicely for my printers ICC profile (ahh theres my answer - unless any of the above would be good enough?)

thanks for your interest

I’m looking to narrow the gap between screen and print
Lets see if I’ve got this straight
On image import, history stack shows -
• input colour profile – dt takes that from camera, no adjustment neccessary
• output colour profile – can be whatever ‘cos I’m gonna overwrite that when I export
• display profile – let dt sort that itself, I dont “… need to perform soft-proofing with professional expectations…” so that precludes my need for monitor calibration (Xrite, spidermonkey, etc).
• And dt has its own working profile to do its juju with various modules on the imported file, I’ll leave that on default

On export -
• export as jpeg with srgb profile to view on various devices and web
• export as jpeg with adobe rgb to avoid that nasty banding on gradients when viewing on various devices and web (is this a reasonable assumption?)
• export as 16 bit tiff with adobe rgb and send that to my printer guy so he can send me a nice big shiny hardcopy

Thing is (and we’re closer to the point of all this waffle), the nice big shiny hardcopy is, well, different from the picture on screen, darker. Not by a lot, but enough. (B&W whites fade to grey)
In my excitement to see the NBSH I completely ignored this - toggle softproofing
(lots of options in there)

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Could I get away with leaving the display, preview and histogram profiles as is and match the softproof profile to the export (adobe rgb) profile and expect my screen and printer guys NBSH show some resemblance to each other? I’m not looking for pixl perfect reproduction here – close enough really is good enough.
Lowering monitor brightness or upping exposure seems a bit hit or miss – too guessy
Moving the NBSH to a better lit piece of wall would put it towards direct sunlight or out of view

Writing all this down leads me to my own answer – ask nicely for printer guys ICC profile and put that in dt’s softproof profile. (a bit of reassurance my thinkings going in the right direction would be nice)

Wow, thats a lot about very little – I admire your patience

Hi, I merged your two separate threads into one. We try not to splinter things too much and I don’t think your “long” post is actually that long.

I think you have it mostly right. Ask your printer for their ICC profile or if they take just sRGB or Adobe RGB.

Also calibrate your monitor.

Second that…all moot if you don’t calibrate your monitor

if you want to play around with softproof ICC files for different printers and paper, you can find a lot here