Thanks Glenn. Could you just clarify please about input and output, i.e. is the input_image the clean TIFF which I create manually in Photoshop and is output_image a TIFF or DNG?
ETA: I tried both. If I set the output to be a .dng file - RT shows nothing, blank. If it is .TIFF which I convert after that using exiftool - it looks like this:
One more thing which I notice (and seen on the video I posted): there is no way to select demosaic method on any of the DNG files generated this way. RT simply doesnât have this menu for these files.
Input is the TIFF created in the drawing program. Output is also TIFF, with the intent being to use that to insert the image array into a DNG or other raw format file.
Others seem to have the chops to help with the DNG insertion; Iâve played with it a bit with no luck.
What happens when you do what I do in the video and when you add your command before creating the DNG with exiftool? Why doesnât RT detect this mosaic?
Actually it is there when I zoom the file generated through Glennâs method but I suppose it is not treated as mosaiced for some other reason. Is it not necessary to somehow include in DNG (metadata or otherwise, I have no idea) that the data is mosaiced? Perhaps that would tell the raw converter how to approach it properly.
Sorry, my comment was a bit wrong: If the demosaic methods in rt are disabled it doesnât mean that the image is already demosaiced. But it does mean that the underlying raw decoder (a modified version of drcaw in case of rt) does not detect that image as undemosaiced raw file. There are a lot of possible reasons for this behaviour, but without an example file I canât answer that.
Why does your RawTherapee look the way it does? Since that is not a look we support, it indicates youâve been changing things yourself - perhaps you changed more than just the look?
Have you edited your camconst.json file?
Are you using a Q16 version of ImageMagick? âconvert -versionâ to find out.
Your histogram looks different/incorrect. Apply the â(Neutral)â profile - does it look correct now?
I have created/edited ~/.config/RawTherapee/my-theme-GTK3-20_.css because I couldnât find a way to use the system colors for the interface (which was an option available in previous version). The default theme - medium gray on dark gray - is too exhausting for the eyes. If you know a way to use the system (Plasma5 desktop) colors, I would be glad to know that.
Is there any problem with my ImageMatick? Looking at the tiff which convert generates I see it fine. Is it possible that exiftool doesnât do the next step right?
Yours has -TIFF-IFD0:FillOrder=Reversed, mine has -TIFF-IFD0:FillOrder=Normal
Maybe thatâs the problem, maybe not. I donât have time to investigate further.
Hi,
I understand that you would like to get to a Raw editing default method without variables like lens imperfections. However, this default will always be at least Sensor and In-camera Raw Compression dependent to begin with if you want to include the use of different algorithms in your test. You will never get to the perfect default editing method that works with any sensor and any in-camera compression. This is one of the reason for the existence of the different algorithms. Furthermore, what use is a default Camera-Editing method without including a lens? In real life there will always be at least one lens (not to mention a variety of them) in the game and a default editing method that did not include a lens is obviously not going to give you the best result once you include a lens.
Finally, if you âmerelyâ want to test editing methods that work for any image, you will have to exclude the demosaicing step and just start your test from there on. I that case; why donât you create a 16bit Tiff in a way that applies to your testing needs. Give it perfect lines, pure colors, build in contrast levels to your needs, etc. and convert it into a .dng. No real life photograph will ever match such perfection.
Hope this was helpful. Cheers!
I understand what you are saying but in my test I still want to avoid the effect of lens and to have the mosaic in the dng. Lens is something which is inevitable but the choice of raw converter is not, so by isolating the effect of lens I can focus on other things without having influence by the variations which different lens models add. As for compression - I am not sure what exactly you mean. Could you please expand? In case you mean some compression applied by the camera software (or hardware) that may be better to exclude too as it is also inevitable. In my test I am willing to focus entirely on the raw conversion without any additional post processing such as color profile correction, lens aberration correction, noise filtering, sharpening etc. Of course if you know something about if certain raw converters use different demosaic or WB algorithms which depend on the camera model, I would be interested to learn more about that too.
As I understand it, you focus on having an as pure as possible file to begin with. No problems here. However, considering that the files that come out of your camera have been processed by the in-camera software that translates the data from your sensor into a Raw file readable by a Raw converter, the camera software is a major factor in determining what you get out of the file at the end. Therefor, what you intend to obtain through tests with an as pure as possible default file will only work with real life out of camera images when the test is done based on images coming out of that particular camera. Thus, if you create a default method that works on sensor A, it does not mean that it works on images shot through sensor B, and I am not even considering lens variables here. That is why I recommended the creation of a as high as possible tiff file that excludes all of these variables, lens and sensor.
As far as I have seen, but I do not know everything, Raw Therapee is a pretty good program, for you can choose between a variety of algorithms for demosaicing,and, furthermore, it offers an infinity of options other Raw editors I know do not include. But, to be honest; Raw Theree, at least on my Windows platform is a pain in the a⊠It crashes frequently and because I try to sustain myself through my work, I have to produce, and, of course, crashing programs do not encounter my needs. This doesnât mean your computer canât necessarily handle the program though. I would say; try it, if you donât already know it. Raw Therapee is Open Software (thatâs probably why it crashes), so; it is free and easy to give it a try.
Whatever you discover, please let me know. I am as interested in the possible results as you are!