But that would mean starting a completely new format from scratch, and there would be no lenses available, and no standard to conform to, and no other manufacturers to collaborate with…
But it’s interesting to see where this will all go because some of us have been harping on about compact cameras for a long time, and maybe, just maybe, manufacturers are starting to listen.
I’m not sure I’m at the stage yet where I want a fixed lens camera, but an updated RX100 or similar would certainly pique my interest. Also, a more affordable RX1 or GFX100RF would be nice for those who need the shallow DoF and lots of MP.
I simply don’t understand why all cameras don’t come with a modern OLED screen. Based on replacement parts prices for phones, a 3" display would cost less than $50–150, depending on technology and specs. These days $200 phones have better screens than $2000 cameras.
Do people really need color accuracy in camera screens? I would imagine that those who care a lot about colors shoot raw, while for OOC JPEGs the camera will figure it out just fine. Screens are for composition.
In any case, I would prefer to see something and sacrifice color accuracy while framing without a second thought.
As this thread approaches 1000 replies, it’s clear that there is a market for such cameras. Pocketability is an obvious reason. I wonder whether the trend toward flying with carry-on luggage only is also a major factor.
It’ll be interesting to see how well the L10 does. Although there are lots of downsides for photographer-first people, specifically the relatively slow start up and zoom, I kind of think Lumix are going in the right direction for people who are coming from phone photography. It looks (and by all accounts feels) pretty nice - they should make that titanium gold a standard option, not a limited edition IMV; it has built in jpeg looks; you can get the pics or video onto your phone/socials relatively easily; it has decent video; built in zoom lens; it’s relatively expensive but also it’s a one and done purchase; it’s an everyday carry.
It does look nice. I just hope they have fixed the dust issue. That’s what made me abandon the lx100: just got fed up of coming home to find black splodges in my photos. Otherwise almost perfect travel camera.
There are so many aspects of phones that are way ahead of cameras, and many of them could be ported over for a better user experience. Better menus, more reliable Bluetooth/Wi-Fi, OLED screens, better touch control, GPS, online integration, storage… not to mention the actual photographic computational side of things that very few manufacturers are embracing.
Not that I want all phone features to carry across, but some of them would definitely improve the user experience, and it’s a reason why I don’t buy all the arguments about us having reached “peak camera”. Maybe the gains in sensor technology are just incremental now, but the UX could see lots of improvements.
I’ve watched a few of his videos and read his blog, and I quite like him. He’s definitely into the video/vlogging aspect more than I am, but he has a good eye for a photo. Not sure what gear he mainly uses right now, but his videos on the A7C camera line made me want one.
If only it had viewfinder… There are barely any cameras that come out these days that catch my interest. There’s always a catch that makes me reject them. It’s a bit boring but mostly liberating.
You’re not saying you want a memory card-less camera, do you? These are one of my top spot pet peeves. Don’t think I’d every buy one.
Not a complete absence of memory cards, but I would be happy with onboard memory, which you can use to extend storage or as a backup, much like having 2 card slots.
I’m interested to see how updated it is for modern photography. I never thought I’d ever consider a bridge camera, but I never say never!
Also, it gives me hope that a new RX100 will come soonish, based on nothing much but the fact that we already have a new RX1, an RX10 soon, and therefore it stands to reason that an RX100 will follow!
Maybe the universe is shrinking, time’s arrow is going backwards and in a hundred years we’ll all be shooting with the Leica I again. Not looking forward to regurgitating that taco I just ate or shitting in reverse, though.
Yes, that would be nice. Though the RX100vii is such a capable camera that is holding up well 7 years after its introduction.
I am happy about the revival of compact and bridge cameras, though I would not buy either. I could live with a 1" sensor but want more freedom in lenses.
One can only hope… I’m currently contemplating a RX100 VII, but buying a 8 year old model at a price that is the same as the introductory price is mentally difficult. Prolly not going to happen.
Yes, that’s my stance too, although if a more affordable compact came out with capabilities similar to an RX100 or GRIV, I could see myself getting it for a truly pocketable camera. The RX100 has a 1" sensor, so I feel like there should be an affordable model, similar to the OM TG line, which is much cheaper. It doesn’t need to have the best autofocus, IBIS or video. Wishful thinking, I know, but you never know.
So, either a more affordable RX100 or a TG-8 with larger sensor than the current one, and I could be very interested.
Currently, I’m still very much in the interchangeable lens camp, and I prefer larger sensors with more megapixels for maximum versatility and creative options. But it means I never have a truly pocketable camera, and sometimes I’d just love to slip one in my pocket. It’s a constant debate whether to buy one (cheaper, 2nd hand), or just stick with my phone. Modern phones produce images good enough, but I never feel like I’m doing proper photography with one, even just for snapshots.
I want a camera like that and have been thinking about what I really want, because no single camera will do everything.
Currently, I am leaning towards the ability to get nice JPEGs out of the camera with some trivial editing (eg fixing exposure). In a lot of situations, when I take photos, people ask me to share them now. Not after I fiddle with them at my desk, who knows when that happens. But within an hour or so.
I think I would sacrifice a lot of this (fast AF, IBIS, interchangeable lenses, EVF). A prime in the 28-40mm equivalent range would be OK.
AFAIK Panasonic’s Lumix Lab allows this, but the micro 4/3 cameras are huge. The S9 could maybe work with the 18-40. I am not familiar with other manufacturers.
Don’t think I’d every buy one.