Bee macro -- always having trouble with colors in darktable, especially macros (sony a6400)

Wonderful shot! I don’t know about the original colors, so I played a little with the image and did some color grading to taste.

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My attempt (darktable 4.5.0~git1108.ff5095cc-1+10846.1), trying to put emphasis with analogue and complementary colors:

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Cool, so I gave things another quick go and attempted to get at least “not worse than ooc jpg” colors, even if the ooc jpg tastes for contrast/saturation differ and I’m not sure how to feel about them yet. I just checked the color balance rgb doc and saw " This module is not suitable for beginners with no prior knowledge of color theory, who might want to stick to the global chroma and global vibrance settings until they have a good understanding of the dimensions of color." and maybe this is where I keep getting stuck or into very weird colors. I had seen a bunch of tutorials basically stating to manage: white balance, the exposure, and then global vibrance/global chroma, then go into filmic. In this quick attempt, I tried using the 4-way tab without any understanding and at least it didn’t make things markedly worse or anything. I also applied tone masks to the leg/eye highlights to knock down the brightness a tiny bit while raising the exposure elsewhere.

I understand near 0 about color and the editing process, but I changed the workflow to sigmoid from filmic as suggested above for this one. I know my biggest hurdle may be how little I know, but It’s been a struggle for me to remember alllllll the pieces of information I’m trying to learn when a lot of it isn’t sticking quite yet, or I don’t understand.

One with haze removal attached, one without. Maybe it’s a bad idea for a module to use here, but sometimes I noticed the haze removal was pleasant at certain depths on the macros I’ve made, and sometimes making them look fake or weird.

I definitely prefer some of the thoughtfully done color renditions above, so I will hopefully try again after reading and looking at what y’all did.



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Went a little lighter than some edits

Not adding much here…

Lovely photo…

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hi @Madko in the DT preferences you can set the workflow to sigmoid. I am not knocking filmic, but it is a more demanding tool to use.


In color balance RGB module you don’t need to be a color expert to use the sliders in the master tab. Just explore and you will find it gives you great control over saturation, contrast and I even depend upon it to adjust shadows and midtones brightness. It is one of my go to modules.

I also sometimes use RGB curves to achieve small color tweaks such as adding a little yellow by lowering the blue curve or adding a bit of blue by raising the blue curve.

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Great capture, thanks for sharing!

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This is a lovely photo. I didn’t see a need to make any edits of consequence.

ART 1.18

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This version is mostly ART’s default settings, but uses the Adobe Standard .DNG camera profile, and has some minor tweaks in Lab, a little bit of local contrast, and small amount of texture boost.

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20 posts were split to a new topic: just tried darktable

Couldn’t help myself. Here’s mine in RT


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Hi @Madko,
nice shot, i liked the picture. But for me it lagged focus so, is cropped it heavily to make it more interesting to me. Hope you like my intepretation if you pic :wink:

dt 4.5.0+1131~g5aba7e941e

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A warm welcome :grinning:.
I really cannot see any issue here. The colours look fine to me. Here’s my edit using dt 4.4.1. I tweaked the exposure a little with tone equaliser and improved the saturation of the greens with colour balance RGB. I set WB with colour calibration using the bee’s leg to sample a grey point. In all, a very easy edit with little to do.

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