Cliffs and water

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RAW converted to tiff in Filmulator. This has become my standard RAW converter because with everything at it’s default values (other than exposure adjustment to centre the histogram) it invariably produces excellent results. I do the detail editing in GIMP as I have available a vast array of tools to adjust aspects and regions of an image. But my result was not as good as yours!

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Thanks to everyone who tried editing my photo. After going back, I actually can’t decide if I like this version better or a different one taken about 30 minutes earlier (let’s call it “the earlier one”):

And the one from the OP again for comparison (“the later one”):

I’m leaning towards the earlier one for its lighting and colors, but the later one for its composition. The later one also has a more striking sky and better texture in the cliffs. What do others think?

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Agreed. If I had to pick, it would be the latter of the two. Composition, color, contrast, all strike me as (slightly) better on the eyes. Both are fine images.

Thanks. That’s what I’m thinking too. Too bad I can’t mix the best of both!

Did you attach the correct arp file please ? It looks identical to the one from the original poster.

Thanks for posting
darktable 4.0.1


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Hmmm :thinking: just checked… seems to be the correct arp file (i.e., the one that produced the B&W rendition I posted). In fact, it’s the only .arp file I have associated with this NEF since I never downloaded the OP’s .arp file.

Check again how you’re loading things to see if perhaps there’s a file naming/storage issue at your end?

In a few of these the white clouds to me seem to be unnaturally blue… could be my setup but I used rgb colorbalance and used the highlight picker to find an opponent hue and then bumped up the effect until I got nice looking clouds…this nicely warms up the bluff as well which also seemed a bit cold…so I ended up more with this result…and it seems plausible given the way the scene looks to be lit…


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Thanks for checking.

On looking at the links behind the arp files they are identical, so it’s perhaps another issue but at least it explains why I get identical files.

ejm -------------: https://discuss.pixls.us/uploads/short-url/qV37dEGufl7TXuRUFvELIPqyXdp.arp
montagdude : https://discuss.pixls.us/uploads/short-url/qV37dEGufl7TXuRUFvELIPqyXdp.arp

That’s pretty weird. I’m going to take a closer look. I wonder how that could be?

@Phil_Smith So I took another look, and confirmed that I only have 3 files in total related to this NEF RAW image on my computer … the RAW file, the jpg I produced (in black and white), and a single .arp sidecar file.

Step 1. I reload the RAW and select “default” processing; it reverts its original color (un-processed) form.

Step 2: I import my .arp sidecar and all of the adjustments I made, including the black & white treatment, are effectuated.

Are you saying that when you do the same, using my .arp file, you don’t get a black and white conversion. Or do you get an original color version?

I’m assuming you’re using the “Load a profile from a file” option under the “Processing Profile” section of the upper right portion of the ART Editor screen?

Perhaps re-download my sidecar file and see if you get this same result?

darktable 4


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I’m guessing it’s some sort of site issue, maybe since our sidecar files were uploaded with the same filename. Though if that’s the case, I can’t imagine this is the first time it’s happened. I can confirm that when I hover over the hyperlinks for our two sidecar files, they have the same URL.

@montagdude Just renamed my .arp and uploading it… see if this makes a difference?

DSC_1839-RENAMED.NEF.arp (56.9 KB)

You can immediately see this is a different arp file as the file size is different from the first you posted - 24kb vs 56.9kb.

This renamed arp file works as expected, thanks for reposting.

Glad it worked out but the puzzling thing is that I’ve only had a single .arp file … the one I created. I’ve never downloaded the OP’s .arp file. And the timestamps essentially match the time of my jpg creation posted at the same time.

Perhaps there was something odd taking place behind the scene on the forum server as I still cannot grasp how I could’ve provided two different .arps at different times. :thinking:

You didn’t. The problem is that the forum software assigned the same web-facing link to your original upload as it did to mine. Why this happened, I don’t know, other than to speculate that it has to do with the fact that both files had the same name.

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Interesting - I wonder if this happens often with repeated sidecar uploads by multiple users which are named after a single RAW source.

My try in DT 4.0.1

20220924_080517-DSC_1839.NEF.xmp (13.1 KB)

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