That would be noon EST. See you then.
“If” … what do you mean “if”!!!
Time needs clarification. So does 18:00 UTC+2 equate to 20:00 UTC? I’ve never seen UTC expressed with an offset except to designate a time zone, and I use UTC frequently as an amateur radio operator.
So is the meeting 18:00 UTC, or 20:00 UTC?
20:00 UTC is not noon EST, nor is it noon EDT, which is currently applied. EST is UTC - 5 hours and EDT is UTC - 4 hours.
It’s simple and non-confusing just to state UTC. No offset.
18:00 in “UTC+2” is 16:00 UTC.
I took it to mean 1800 (6pm) local time in the time zone UTC+2…
If x + a = b, then x = b - a, right ?
So if UTC + 2 = 18, then UTC = 18 - 2 = 16.
The general form is <time> <time’s offset from UTC>. “UTC” states offset = 00:00.
Time without a stated offset from UTC is mostly taken to mean local time. “UTC” is one of multiple ways to state zero offset from UTC. Other variants are +0 +00, +00:00 and Z (zulu time, military: zero offset). Read 18:00 +02 as “time is 18:00 with/including a 2hour offset from UTC”.
18:00 +02:00 = 16:00 UTC = 16:00 +0 = 16:00 +00 = 16:00 +00:00 = 16:00 Z.
The offset can be stated indirectly using a geographical reference, as in “Europe/Berlin”. That opens an additional can of worms called Daylight Savings Time or DST. 18:00 Europe/Berlin is ambiguous without the date, you need to know if DST is in effect or not, 18:00 Europe/Berlin can be 18:00 +01 or 18:00 +02 depending on date.
I think Zulu time existed before UTC and referred to time at the zero meridian or possibly to the GMT time zone back in the day. UTC is arguably not a time zone, while GMT is and has the DST problem.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I am deeply involved in processing log data from remote robot devices and I need to keep these things straight
It’s so hard to have fun.
We have all sorts of obsessions here. Good or ill, that is the diversity of our member and readership.
I would like to join. But if England beats Germany tonight in the UEFA EURO football tournament, I will have to leave early to watch the quarter final.
If you want to inflame the rivalry, replace
But if x beats y
with
When x beats y.
(Better yet, we could watch together online. It is a virtual pub hangout after all.)
Congrats!
I guess all you Germans will have the time to come hang out!
At least the Frenchies will be there…
Aye, would be nice to meet you all virtually! (The football games for Finland are already over )
High noon in Toronto.
All that’s missing now is the…missing link.
For the first time in my life, England has eliminated Germany.
However, congratulationsto the Poms for breaking their hoodoo of 55 years!
It is to be hoped it will be another 55 before such a travesty occurs again!
Is that all by avatars? That’s what it looks like on that page. I was thinking it would be a video chat, but I’m not really up on all of this stuff.
Yes. I’m just afraid that a video chat × n people would be chaotic.