Possible to share the raw?
Sure:
DSZ_1908.NEF (26.9 MB)
License: CC-BY-4.0, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode
Nice one and definitely not exposed to the right
Heh, I thought it was a scene at late dusk.
Generically, twilight is about the illumination, that being sky-scattered sunlight from the below-the-horizon sun. “Dusk” and “dawn” are instants in time, so to speak, having to do with the sun’s instantaneous relationship to the horizon.
And yes, I care deeply about the leap second Meta so enthusiastically wants to do away with…
A lot nicer than mine. Duly shamed, I went back and pulled the shadows back down, and replaced the matrix profile with my SSF LUT profile, which took that yellow out of the green…
Excuse me. This is my interpretation. I am not satisfied. I like the "tone of the road (very close to the ris, which is supposed), I like the “tones” of the forest greens. I don’t like the tone of the mountains in the background on the left with a very ugly magenta/reddish tone…
DSZ_1908.NEF.xmp (13,5 KB)
cheers
Interesting… I went back to pix-peep my rendition, and that mountain is a lot more “neutral” there:
In the screenshot I included the view of my colorspace tool, shows I’m using my SSF profile. However, it looks the same with the plain old matrix profile.
I don’t have an operable darktable with which to regard your .xmp; what input camera profile are you using?
I do not use a specific camera profile. The space is sRGB relative colour space.
You have to use a camera profile, or at least a matrix of primaries, to describe the input. sRGB is the destination, and the transform is usually camera → XYZ → sRGB, so the camera and destination profiles don’t have to know about each other.
I’d surmise right now that the darktable default matrix for the Z 6 is from an Adobe DCP, which tend to be “warmer” than a ColorChecker-targeted profile. Just a gross surmise, based on heresay and supposition…
I’m just guessing here, based on the fact that my renders here, one based on the libraw-supplied matrix whose provenance I do not know, and my SSF profile whose provenance I do know, are virtually identical with respect to the distant mountain color, and more-neutral than the warm render by @Jose_Figueres with darktable. And, my limited experience with Adobe DCPs from the AdobeDNGConverter. Geesh, I may have to snarf their DCP and make a primary set…
LibRaw (and dcraw) matrices are also D65 Adobe DCP ones (for the majority of cameras). No idea where the RT ones come from for the Z 6, which is different from the Z 6_2 one (which, in turn is the Adobe one and identical to Z 6 for dt and LibRaw…)
So any difference between LibRaw and dt is due to some other processing step.
I just happened to have a ICC conversion of the CameraRaw dcp, D65 white point, and it renders the mountainjust a tad warmer than the libraw primaries, but not as warm as @Jose_Figueres’ render. So yes, I’d concur with ‘other processing step’.
I will investigate whether I can answer this question. Although my knowledge is very limited
That would explain the color cast - try setting it to what the camera autodetected, or choose a cooler (yellowish/reddish) illuminant or preset manually, sunrise/sunset is more like 3400K, you can even try incandescent…
Anyhow, this is beyond the scope of this HLR subject - please search the forum for related color balancing issues in dt, or open a new one.
According to the Z6 firing parameters the temperature is 5098K. The result is very similar…