Roel,
I was invited to ask questions about ART - from Alberto.
Please let him answer my questions.
Why do you want to slow down this process?
Oh yes, Mike - back to Home. Don’t ever consider new ideas.
@Eigil_Skovgaard My intention with my comment was to temper expectations. Your request is not wholly unreasonable as Jacques Desmis already explained, but at the moment is not very realistic that it will become possible in RT. I hope you understand.
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I think in the way camera raw and photoshop are used in tandem so too are RT and DT with Gimp in the world of FOSS. I have not used GIMP in a long time but I know there have been lots of improvements and I believe it has a host of brushes and tools for masking and selecting. It could be that you can emulate what you have done in photoshop within GIMP so not so different that a basic edit done in Camera Raw and port through to PS.
Hi,
You have an interesting way of asking questions, if I might say…
anyway:
It’s nowhere near as good as yours, but this is really pushing ART to its limits… if this is what you want to do, I think you should look elsewhere.
HTH
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I don’t get satisfying results with the parametric mask only, so a combination of masks is needed here - as Alberto has shown in the example above. Perhaps pixel editors are better suited for this job, as others suggested.
Everybody,
When twisted minds are given authority, we - the free spirits - end up with tyranny and censorship. It happens very fast, if we don’t fight back.
This is common knowledge for people using FaceBook, Google and YouTube. Unwanted information is gradually deleted and replaced with the accepted narrative through a number of arbitrary and tyrannical decisions.
A few minutes after “Mica” interrupted an interesting and friendly dialog here on discuss.pixls.us, my account was “silenced” (read: suspended) for 1 day.
This is the anonymous message: “You have been silenced from the forum until August 7, 2021, 3:00pm. Reason - Please take a break, this is becoming too negative.”
What exactly had become too negative? - and to whom?
I was debating with Alberto and Paul the ability for ART to create a certain mask without having a straight line function. That should be considered a constructive and positive dialog. Actually that should be exactly what discuss.pixl.us was made for.
But not according to a challenged “moderator” on this site. That entity is constantly luring for an excuse to interrupt and corrupt, and when nothing bad actually happens, it creates a situation by releasing one of the well known absolutely disconnected and useless comments.
How can such an anonymous avatar be accepted as a moderator??? Does it own this site - or does daddy?
Such persons are able to discredit the work of a number of seriously working members by simply corrupting the tone and atmosphere and make it all look like a kindergarten or an excursion to the finger paint academy.
Alberto,
Your ART needs a handful of improvements to bring it out of the narrow FOSS loop.
Unexpectedly - because you were introduced as an accommodating person - you have demonstrated your reluctance even to consider any of my suggestions - and with an annoying arrogance.
So I’ll leave you in peace - with your sixty percent finished product.
I’m sorry, WHO is arrogant here?
Paul,
It’s rather funny to observe how some individuals here constantly are switching around cause and effect. That’s how conflicts are created.
Hmm, your way of talking to some others here is in my eyes a bit… conflictious.
Of course, Paul - that’s your way to avoid a discussion about the item - a straight line function for the masking brush in ART. As long as everybody waste their time with all the personal details - then some people are deeply satisfied - because in that way they don’t need to have good arguments for their positions - the discussion has been derailed before they need to think. Elegantly - right?
Thanks for your feedback. Good bye, and good luck with your search for a tool that suits your needs.
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Well the tpoic is about RT, not ART…
Ingo,
You need to read the whole dialog to know why we ended up with ART.
Oh, I have got that tool Alberto. Know them all.
Just wanted to offer you a view into the world around, because your masking tool was interesting.
Good luck to you too.
For the record, I never said this would not be a good idea. In fact, I would certainly welcome this. But I don’t have enough interest to do this myself, because that’s not critical for the way I use the tool. So I was trying to point out possible alternatives, based on your first example. When you showed your second one, I admitted that this is something not easy to do currently in art, and that you are probably better served by other tools if that kind of use is important for you. If you want to call that arrogant, well, who am I to challenge your opinion?
I did. And I don’t like changing a dialog, which is tagged (even double tagged) for one software, to another software. It’s just confusing for the readers imho.
Alberto,
I don’t quite remember that explanation from you in the preceding dialog.
But let’s forget that.
The straight line masking function is so powerful that everybody have it - except … !
Lightroom, Adobe Camera Raw, Capture One, On1 Photo Raw, and a lot more - all RAW-editors.
I admitted up front that my masking example was unusual, but a lot of situations exist where a straight line is easier to make with the brush than with a rectangle or anything else - and finally that very mask could as well have been made in each of the mentioned raw editors - but was made in PS.
Now you argue, that you personally don’t need such a function, but I regard you to be the primary person to consider improvements in ART, that’s why I write to you. You are also the one person who in my opinion would feel responsible for the product and its popularity.
Indeed, I didn’t explain this earlier, that’s why I’m explaining this now. What I did (try to) answer was your question about whether you were missing anything, and I pointed out that maybe you didn’t consider the possibility of combining multiple kinds of masks to achieve your goal. Admittedly, I was replying under the assumption that you wanted to get the most out of art, which I now discovered was a completely baseless assumption to make. I understand instead that your goal is to provide advice, and that you have no interest in learning how to use art in its current form and with its current (many) limitations. In that case, thank you for your suggestion, I will certainly consider it. If I ever get to do this, I will make sure to mention you in the credits file.
Best
Come on, Alberto - that’s really a sad song.