Reasons the app isn't running well on Windows

It definitely slows down my machine in multiple scenarios. One thing you need to know about my writing was that it was fast and loose, and unzipping is a rather tangential problem that I happened to come across and insert at the time of the writing. My apologies for being more anecdotal than scientific.

If I am understanding you correctly, unzipping many smaller files should be quicker. If that is the case, then my experience unzipping this particular package proves that Defender is causing strain on my system, at least on the SSD and CPU. The more files the zip file has and the smaller they are, the slower the copying becomes; the LEDs blink, the fans whirl and the other components vibrate and buzz.

The most important thing to note is that the main process of Defender was at the top of the task manager list. That said, it doesn’t always happen, but when it does, it is quite obvious. In this particular case, the unzipping wasn’t too bad, it just took a very long time, because I have already tamed Defender somewhat but apparently, after a few recent updates, it is a bit fussier now.

To be clear: I don’t advise disabling Defender, as it is beneficial to most users. I would only do it to see if it is the cause of the system slowdown. I should probably add this to the main post!

Thanks for your feedback by the way. Let me know how I could make it more convincing. (I will try to make the illustration clearer and make some comparisons. Again, it is a tangential case, so I wouldn’t want to put too much stock in it.)

In general, I am not the best person to talk about this subject; but I saw the vacuum and Defender being brought up repeatedly, so I decided to start writing about it, hoping that smarter and clearer minds would chip in along the way.

Last thing I would say is that this is a common problem and it isn’t because of user inexperience or ignorance (okay, maybe a wee bit). A brief online search would yield plenty of results including ones on Microsoft’s own forums, to which its staff mostly refrain from being involved (because they either don’t want to acknowledge the problem or they are among the lucky few who don’t encounter it).

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The way this appeared on my screen made me chuckle:

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and that’s why many of us run Linux!

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Not everyone has the choice.

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NEVER EVER recommend turning off the virus scanner.

On the technical side … windows file system is much slower as well:

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Absolutely. Just found the way the heading/category info read, taken together. No harm intended, and sorry if it appeared that way.

I was going to write about these things sooner or later. I already talked about the two items implicitly. To the first point, I guess I should have written it in the first time to make sure that I am not misleading the masses. The guide I linked to also has a warning but I should not rely on that.

Thanks for your feedback @darix.

According to many - or all - reliable tests, Microsoft’s integrated antivirus slows the system down more than any other solution. This is why I am using one of the free lightweight programs, that can be further optimized and are still also better security wise.

@Jacal Yeah, the transition from Window 7 to 10 was an eye opener. The system performance suffered a lot in part due to Defender. I noticed the slowdowns, even with a clean and updated copy of Windows 10. And that was after I disabled all of the unnecessary spyware, ads, nagging and useless components. Windows as a service and your friendly OS my foot! Windows 10 was marketed to use less system resources and to be much faster than Window 7… sigh.

Just to mention, Windows 7 “support” ends with the end of this year. The free transition to Windows 10 is still available. It might be better than nothing.
I have had my PC and my laptop in dual-boot mode for over a year, to learn, what is still missing for a Linux-only approach. (Some games only, actually. I don’t do games any more, but would still like to keep the gamer status. We, the gamers, are young badass people.)
Dual-boot means more work to maintain the “systems”, so I am back on Windows-only. (Linux on virtual machines, though.)
The next PC will be build for Linux, but it is hard to declare an old machine obsolete nowadays. After some upgrades, like a SSD system disk and a better graphic card, the old rig works fine. Even with Win10 installed on top of Win7.
(A clean Win10 installation will probably make the system even more sleek.)

At one point, virtualisation was good but now it takes too much work and resources. Yes, a clean installation is much better. Dual boot is not to my taste because I love to multitask. When I boot into one OS, I feel like I have a ghost limb.

@Jacal May I ask which free AV are you using?

Avast, I’m used to it. With some features disabled (“cybercapture”, “hardened mode”, browser plugin). Avira usually also offers decent protection with small impact on system, but I see it didn’t do well on the last performance test.

personally I dont have much of a problem with defender.

Me neither, on the other hand I have had issues with other AV products, both gratis and paid for.

I have been intending to migrate to Linux for a long time now, however, I have so few issues with Windows that it’s difficult to get motivated to make the switch.

There is at least one technical reason, why some applications performe worse on Windows than on Linux. This can have a significat impact on speed especially if small functions are not inlined:

Linux allows more registers to be used to transfer values on function calls than Windows (see here for reference):

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In the defense of defender no issues here either. Chrome is quite a RAM hog though.

This said, my home PC has 8Gb, that can get a bit tight. Office PC has 16Gb and feels faster (almost identical hardware).

Darktable is still fast though, even with my poor quality scans in 16bit TIFF that have about 130Mb.

Going 16Gb RAM would make sense but I hesitate to invest money in 3 year old hardware (strangely, my notebook, i5 8gen, 8Gb doesn’t feel faster)

Looks like it isn’t Defender’s fault after all or the exceptions worked. Here is the latest unzipping screenshot just before its completion. As you can see, it starts off at a snails pace. I have come to accept this and do something else while it is decompressing.

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I think another good place to check (that is, if this hasn’t been mentioned yet) is the Internet Options…for instance, I just realized I didn’t have gimp on the trusted sites page!! (very important!)

It is an already downloaded file though…

oops, lol, tells you how tech savvy I am! but I’m trying everything since my issues with the newest gimp (keeps crashing) and I just had a bunch of new uploads for windows

Still having issues are you? I am thinking it might be more to do with your system than the installation. Have you tried a portable GIMP? I.e., requires no installation: just extract to a folder. I may have suggested this before, if you use Windows, try this https://www.partha.com/downloads/GIMP/Gimp-2.10.12-64bit-portable.exe.

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