I went to best buy today and saw a Proart 4k and a Samsung LU28R550. I decided to take a chance with the Samsung monitor instead, 28" 4K, better price. i could simply not buy Asus because of the bad experience with the VY249. The 4k ProArt was too expensive anyway.
the Samsung looked pretty good to my eye but there was no way to test the glow or anything like that. According to AI the Samsung panels are not the same as LG, so, hopefully this one will have no critical glow spots in a dark image situation and will be fully compatible with Mint.
We will see, if it’s not working I’ll return it and pick another one.
Text scaling this is nice I was not even aware that we could do such a thing, thanks for the information. it’s changing the appearance of my desktop a great deal.
I can’t wait to customize my desktop when I receive that Samsung 4k monitor in a couple of days.
For the sake of knowledge here, the Samsung LU28R550 4K screen is absolutely terrible, my photos look terrible especially those with low exposition skies, the gradients are all granulated and I see stripes in the gradient. My pictures captured with my older 16 megapixels camera are so terrible, they are literally impossible to look at.
Maybe the screen is exposing how low quality the quality is, but it makes non sense, as if everyone uses 2000CAD cameras to look at nice pictures on their computer. Besides, the LG 4K was not showing all of that noise.
I don’t know what is wrong with these monitors, the handling of what is black and what is bright… is just not natural, the reds are oversaturated, nothing works, I just prefer my 480$ laptop LCD or my old LG 22".
Conclusion: No more 4K screens for this computer, nothing bigger then 24". and frankly i’ll pick a 1080p next.
So now I should start listening and get a 1080p Proart 24" or a Spectre. lol
I’ve been using a 2014 Dell 24" 4k ultrasharp and a 2015 27" 4k non-ultrasharp series.
For editing, I greatly prefer the higher resolution, though display resolution doesn’t affect Filmulator’s performance at all unlike other editors (it renders the original photo resolution).
I will say that the Ultrasharp has significantly better panel uniformity. I’m very curious to know what a real pro panel’s uniformity is like.
2014 was probably not the same technology as today. How these screens manage the blacks today, you have to like it it’s really weird and not good IMO. You get like Vanta black paint in your screen, it’s making exposition adjustments even worse.
But the screens I bought were not professional monitor. I really wonder if the ProArt 1080p 16:9 24" is really a professional monitor.
My computer, just watching a webpage is taking much more CPU and GPU with 4K, just looking at google earth, the fans are spinning and it’s annoying me… above that, I don’t even have 60 FPS… on google earth… my computer can’t take it.
First screen:
ASUS: VY249 23.x 1080p: Has huge backlight bleeding and glow problems.
LG 27UP600-W, 27" 4K: Has huge blacklight bleeding and glow problems but my photos were nice even those with low exposition. Was not compatible with Linux mint (I could not suspend the computer).
Samsung LU28R550 28" 4K: Had no critical glow problems, daytime images were almost as nice as the LG, night time pictures low expositions were full of noise and terrible gradients.
85% of what I look at is low fidelity youtube… that is one argument too…
I will check out the Dells, but I guess Samsung or LG must supply their panels.
That’s more close to reality than otherwise. Especially with OLED and similar monitors, they have much more contrast than you’re used to, but it’s closer to reality than “old” tech that had 1:1000 contrast ratio or worse. In scenes with high contrast, blacks will look black instead of grey.
The PA278QV is one of the best purchases I’ve made, a big improvement on the 27" Imac I had before it IMO. 1440p is spot on for me though, using Linux scaling was a massive pain on the Imac.
I hope i’ll like it with the ProArt, I expect it to be similar to the others I returned already. But If the gradients are smooth and my pictures look good, I’ll certainly appreciate the black management of it.
I don’t see nothing wrong with my older flat screens where the black look grey, when the screen is black, it’s all grey but at least you get no glow in the corners.
PRO ART WINS!
I received my ProArt 23.8" PA247CV 1080p 16:9 - Display port. It’s a total success this time!!
A. The screen is beautiful to look at, the gradients and my pictures are pristine.
B. The resolution is perfect at 1080p the computer is not working extra to compute high resolution.
C. The size is perfect, I prefer that much better then 27 or 28" considering that my desk is 24" deep only. I’ve go 23 3/4 of diagonal compared to my previous screen 21.5" it’s a fun upgrade.
D. The vesa mount was easy to install but required specialized spacers kit and longer screws (20mm) bought for 8$ at the electronic store.
E. it has no non sense IPS-Glo or backlight bleeding, nothing abnormal, I can watch a movie without problem. Clearly it’s a superior panel compared to the other models.
F. The screen has multiple buttons to control the settings which I prefer over the joystick in the middle.
G. It has a separate on/off button instead of turing the screen off in 2 steps with the joystick.
H. The blacks and brights are a bit like the 4Ks screen, high contrast. Nothing I can do about this as discussed previously, but my pictures are beautiful.
I am very pleased, very!!
This was a recommendation of the forum, took me time to follow it, I decided to try other things before and learned a great deal about the new technology.
I loved the screen instantaneously, so thanks for the suggestion here for ProArt.
i have got this monitor last month and honestly its really good at that budget there are only few LG and Asus monitors are there built built quality is superb in this one
3 clicks to get to an Amazon page and finally find out what monitor it is!
Maybe it’s just a pet peeve of mine, but I’m not a fan of the “this + link” way of discussing a product.
I’m still rocking my 34" Asus ultrawide, which is 10 years old now. I just ran my Calibrite color checker on it recently, and it’s still basically calibrated perfectly.
But I am starting to consider an upgrade soon because I’m interested in a 32" 4K mini-LED monitor.
Maybe a bit out of topic, but I’m really thinking about using AR Glasses as my next monitor. Currently use an LG 4K 32" monitor and it’s huge but nice. Even so, I’m intrigued with the ability of creating many virtual monitors that can be camped where I want them to. This technology already exists but a bit pricey at the moment for what I want. Hopefully the price becomes more reasonable.
I visited a friend a few days ago, with an impressive computer setup. Its centerpiece was a huge 1440x5120 double-27" ultrawide display.
At home, I run two 27"-4K screens side by side. But I’ve got to say, if I were using my setup for gaming at all, his ultrawide would be extremely compelling.
I am not going to replace my monitor yet, although I am aware that it is now very imperfect. It is a 10-yr-old Dell Ultrasharp U2415.
(Actually, it has lasted very well: it has survived the last decade better than I have!)
When the time comes, though, I know what I will face. All the ratio changes have been in favour of wider. I think this is because of some production-cost factor. My monitor is 24-inch 16:10. I will not sacrifice the vertical dimension: I think I have to go to 31-inch to keep that.
It’s been a while since I last looked, that number might not be right. But I’m sure the next couple of sizes give more width but less height.
I don’t think I’d ever go back to a 4:3 ratio, but I may go back to 16:9. My current 34" is 21:9, and I love it, but there are certainly times when I miss the vertical height. Actually, it’s not that I’m lacking vertical height; it’s that the ratio makes you feel like you are. And sometimes, it can feel just a bit too wide. With darktable, I have tons of room at the sides, with lots of wasted grey space either side of the image, but I’m always wanting more vertical space for the modules.
If/when I move to a 32" 4K monitor, I would gain about 3cm at the top and bottom (6cm total) and lose about 4cm from each side (8cm in total). I think this is a nice trade-off, especially as I actually gain 120 sq.cm in total area, plus increased pixel density.
The only potential downside is the increased resolution will be more taxing on my computer.
