Which Linux distro?

Hi Glenn,
I’m on Linux since 2007 when I discovered the other side of the coin :wink:…Until 2007 I had windows at work and on home pc and at home I was annoyed about the antivirus which at boot freezed evrything .Firstly I tried Ubuntu but soon I tried Slackware ( someone said if you want to learn linux learn Slackware ) and I sticked with it.
Now I have Slackware current because is the only way to have bleeding edge photo software (Pat the maintainer of Slackware releases not very often new release ) and the other day I installed the newest kde environment compiled by AlienBob.

I’m very happy with this distro. It’s very stable and with those upgrades to the main release I have the opportunity to use the bleeding-edge photo software.

Cheers
Gabriele

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Ha, didn’t know Slackware was still around. My time with it was in the mid '90s; among other things, I used it to configure a router that would dial up the ISP when it detected network traffic. I used it during our overseas assignment, where the backhaul internet went over a satellite connection… slooooow…

Oh, funny story… our telephone service out there in the middle of the Pacific Ocean was satcom-linked to a telephone exchange in Paso Robles, California, so we had California telephone numbers. Accordingly, we’d get cold-call solicitations as if we lived in California. One day, my neighbor got one from a siding salesman, who was determined to deliver, no matter where my neighbor lived. Really amusing was, our housing were these prefab igloo-shaped things; neighbor told this guy he’d like to 1) see you deliver out here, and if you get here, 2) watch you try to wrap siding around this thing… :smile:

The obligatory image:

Have I strayed too far from the topic???

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Slackware has GIMP but doesn’t have dt, RT or gmic packages.

Hi Afre,
you can compile or from slackbuild or by yourself all you can.
On my Slackware I have: Gimp 2.10.14+gmic from git;Rawtherapee from git;ART from git;digikam and IccExamin;Hugin
Time ago I had DT too, but I use Rawtherapee.

At the moment I am annoyed because I cannot configure MX to use my dual graphics setup properly, although a few weeks ago I was able to do it. (I have MX on a pendrive.)

Also, (L)Ubuntu seems to be so far the only system where darktable can use both of my graphics cards.

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Lubuntu, that uses the LXDE desktop environment? How do you find that with regards to colour management?

Lubuntu 18.04 uses Lxde, Lubuntu 19.10 uses Lxqt. Unfortunately I cannot use 18.04 because the kernel is too old and does not support my hardware.
As far as color managment is concerned, I could configure it properly with dispwin (on the command line), but usually I don’t do that because I am too lazy. In darktable I just choose AdobeRGB as display profile, in RT some shipped mediumgamut profile. My screen’s gamut is a bit larger than AdobeRGB and it is hardware calibrated. Lximage shows the right colors if I view photos that are in AdobeRGB, so I usually save my photos in AdobeRGB. I know that the colors are oversaturated in the broswer and that’s ok, I got used to that.
The trouble is that at the moment I am distro-surfing and I would need to set up color management every week or so. Also, I tend to break my system quite often more or less on purpose because I am experimenting a lot so I need to re-install it regularly anyway LOL, e.g. today I tried to install the Intel Neo driver on Debian testing which did not work, this time I was lucky because it did not break anything. Last week I did something though that broke my X-server and I could not repair it.

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clonezilla.org is my friend here to make an image before I do major changes on the system. Usually, Linux installations have a few GBs and a clone is made in a couple of minutes.

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Moved from NetBSD to Slackware around 1997, still running it :slight_smile: (can’t find a better option for my needs, I do however always have a CentOS installation available for testing software I develop).

I’m still running 14.2 and have not seen any reason to upgrade, most applications can still be built, if not you always have AppImages. -current is just too bleeding edge for me (I prefer a OS that never changes, except when I want it to)

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Although still being an Ubuntu flavor, you may try Linux Mint Mate or Linux Mint Xfce. I’m using the Cinnamon desktop, but I think they all use the same system to drive several monitors.

I have just checked with my system using my Nvidia card and the CPU graphics card (my Nvidia only has one HDMI slot). Both RT and DT show secondary windows on the second display, and work as expected (same as in just one monitor).

The only thing to note is that the first time you use both monitors in Linux Mint, they have to be connected and turned on before booting Linux itself. The rest is automatic.

Once Mint has recognized them, just go to System Settings>Hardware>Color to set the proper profile to each monitor, and System Settings>Hardware>Display to configure each monitor.

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Unfortunately Mint is not possible for me, the kernel is too old and does not support my hardware. I need at least kernel 5.2. Thanks anyway for the suggestion.
I have not yet had a closer look at Fedora though.
Maybe I will switch to Mint 20 in a few months.

Years ago I used to have an autistic friend who used NetBSD :slight_smile: He was/is a programmer and very much into open source (at a time when I wasn’t). NetBSD reminds me of him. Quite an “unusual” system…

I have just checked, and in my Mint 19.3 Tricia I have kernel 5.3 available. Haven’t tried it though, so I can’t tell if it works or not

Yea, I think you can upgrade the kernel after you have installed a system with kernel 5.0. But on my system 5.0 does not even boot. The live system has kernel 5.0. Only an option if some “minor” hardware is not supported by kernel 5.0.
Or am I wrong?

Don’t you have a GPU in your CPU?

What do you mean? I have an integrated Intel GPU + an Nvidia.
Anyway, some weeks ago I tried to boot Mint, didn’t work.

Well, as it turns out, perhaps it would be not so easy to just try those distributions in your system… :thinking:

What I was thinking is to connect your display to your CPU/GPU slot, maybe even unpluging your Nvidia card. Then install the distribution (if, and only if there are no more hardware needing at least a 5.2 kernel), update, shutdown, plug the Nvidia card, boot Linux, let the system recognize both cards, and maybe both displays, and in the end set which monitor should be the Primary display.

A long shot, maybe

In France all Police, Gendarmerie, the parliament and and MP are equipped with Linux computers (ubuntu) with Libre Office. I don’t see that as overly green party stuff. Also the green/ecologist party in France is basically a watermelon thingy. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

Close to 100% of the World’s servers are running Linux - I don’t know how green that is, neither.

Nope -I wouldn’t put a party-sticker on open-source.

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@betazoid I am wondering where in the boot sequence you are having the problem. If you could somehow reach a command line or script, you could potentially update the kernel. Sorry, I don’t have the means or the hardware to test this strategy.

@dafrasaga Of course you could build anything. Your earlier post seemed to imply that it was all there, but when I checked Slack Builds only had the latest stable GIMP and RT.

Well the French also had gothic cathedrals first.

I remember when Linux was “fashionable” for the first time, maybe between 2000 und 2005, in Austria we had a right-conservative (black-blue) government which I hated. The greens became stronger and stronger but the first negotiations with the conservative party were unsuccessful, I am not sure when that was, maybe in 2002. At the same time Germany had a red-green government which was also terrible I think. But now the greens are back in Austria and they are in the government for the first time. I am curious where this will lead…

500 years ago, the important question was which religion you belonged to (there were many people who changed their religion several times in their life). Later, political parties became more important than religion, left or right. And today maybe the question is whether you have an Android phone or an iPhone.

Edit: GendBuntu is an interesting, apparently well planned project. It was invented unter the very conservative president Chirac and continued under the also conservative Sarkozy and the socialist Hollande, obviously because the police were saving a lot of money with it. It is successful because since the 12th century and later the Roi-Soleil France is the most centralized country in Europe.

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