Hi solitone, as kofa explains, when i make a duplicate of my image in the beginning of a scene refered workflow, than in lightroom i see the jpeg which is inside the raw.
And than, when i work on the duplicate in darktable, i can compare my work on the duplicate with the jpeg in the raw in lightroom.
Yes its a jpeg, with all stuff olympus does with it, but my first impression was, why the hell is it so brown and yellow, where are the reds. In beginning of decembre i made a foto of two horses and a second one of a tree with old red brownish leaves. First impression when i begin in darkroom:
all yellowish and no contrast
With the help of a good friend, we worked it out with exposure, filmic (yes 2022) and colour balance.
sry, i am not an english native speaker:
my jpeg is more to the picture in my brain as my work in darktable with the raw, thats what i want to express.
Thanks. I thought I could directly upload an ORF file (Olympus Raw File) here in pixls, but apparently I need to zip it first, otherwise only the embedded jpeg is uploaded.
Are you wondering why it’s yellow rather than reddish/orange as in the low exposure edit? Or are you wondering why the peak has a warmer tone?
Clearly the morning sun is hitting the peak and it should have a warmer tone than the side of the mountain. I do think that the way the yellow looks in your edit isn’t great. It looks sort of flat and unnatural.
If you use Sigmoid tone mapping (default settings) the highlights will have more red in them.
So your image is a good one to show that just using a couple of simple settings that you will end up with a different look and if carried forward then would influence how you continue to edit esp if you are automatically throwing on sigmoid or filmic…
So here are a series of your images with only legacy as shot wb and 1 EV of exposure added…
Changing settings in filmic esp rel white and contrast settings in sigmoid would alter these and maybe for the better but as you can see just from the choice you make here you will think of your image as being yellow …or maybe not???
Its very easy to adjust with the CB module…you can just desaturate or saturate and change the hue if needed… I use the base curve on your raw file and and added just a touch of exposure and it looks pretty much like the jpg…But there is a lot more data in the raw in the sky etc if you want to use it… Also if you set your wb even to just the olympus daylight it takes a bit of the nasty yellow out…Maybe all the foreground shadow and green fooled the autowb if you used that… so lots of small tweaks could impact the image… also adding a lot of exposure like 1.7 ev or so and doing a filmic edit is also pretty close to what your jpg and sky show but with a lot more detail in the shadows…
You look like you have 1.7 EV??? No actually I didn’t show it but using about that much I did a filmic edit that I thought was close to the OP jpg as well… My examples were with 1EV
I think the yellow-ish highlights look quite natural… My screen is calibrated ( a Christmas present to myself a little over a year ago ) and I wouldn’t really call them yellow… (EDIT after more playing… I take that back - they do look yellow) still, it certainly is on the yellow side of orange. Having said that I prefer the image a little more reddish in those bits. My preferred method of adjusting that kind of thing is the channel mixer in color calibration. In this case I did this:
Which reduces the amount of green in pixels of the image that contain red (pushes the hue more reddish) and compensates (to preserve the overall white balance) by increasing the green in the pixels that contain green. This is the same thing that color calibration does if you use it to match to a color chart.
Anyway, here’s my edit, using sigmoid.
20230105_081247_0024.ORF.xmp (15.7 KB)
What do you think of the colors?
Edit… maybe to yellow still…
Same edit but with this
looks like this, starting to verge on a peachy-pink orange… to my eyes anyway… nice though.
Yes… I thought you said you added 1 ev. And the image opens with +0.7 already!
But what I was getting at was the wb - yours looks a lot warmer than what I saw…
Ya sorry for the confusion… I don’t add default exposure either… I just open all my images with legacy wb… Then I use the autopicker in exposure and its set at 50% so I try an image average …often this is pretty good so off to edit the image… if not I will use the same thing but select an area of the image that I want well exposed and see what I get… Using the initial workflow lua macro I can automate this, some cb settings and have the tone eq mask set and ready to edit… Its a clever little macro…
I just tried your method of creating a duplicate and using the compare mode in lighttable. Thanks for sharing this workflow. I was wondering how ‘faithfully’ the lighttable view is to the out of camera JPG. Has anyone confirmed this? Thanks
Edit: I usually shoot in Raw + JPG. Sometimes I open the jpg first in Darktable, take a snapshot and then open the Raw file. This allows me to do a direct comparison during the editing process and can be helpful for some images.
