Wiring darktable with Krita [nsfw]

The words of the wise man

Does this solve you problem? Any suggestions?

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Merged :slight_smile:

The next Krita version will have a command line option to to open a file as a file-layer. This is at least a small step in the right direction.

Nice ! I’m looking forward to wire darktable’s filmic to an OCIO transform, so Krita and darktable can share the display transform (without applying it on the actual pixel).

I believe, after this step, the image operations will be ready to start considering the workflow inlining.

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Live edit with full darktable + Krita workflow :

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Always nice to see someone doing their thing and in this case I learned a few things as well.

Thanks for recording and uploading!

EDIT: Just remembered: You didn’t explain why you moved the local contrast module before filmic.

I’m assuming it has to do with disabling filmic before the export to krita, but I’m not entirely sure about that. Can you elaborate on that?

yes, exactly, it’s just because we disable filmic before going into Krita, so letting anything after filmic would change the look in an unpredictable way.

I’m having a little too much fun with Krita and darktable during confinement…

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Laser lashes. :rofl:

I’ve never used Krita before, so I’m looking forward to playing with it, in combination with Darktable.

I’m assuming that the Krita integration with Darktable hasn’t been released yet?

I’m assuming that the Krita integration with Darktable hasn’t been released yet?

It hasn’t been implemented jet.

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It’s not even fully designed. I need to understand Krita’s pipeline better.

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Hi everyone,
I’m mixing photo and krita, but in a separated way !!! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


sorry for this digression !!!

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@jllailes Well done! I guess you’d need to take the tractor to a body shop instead of an orthadonist to straighten the teeth. BTW, love the B&W!

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thank you,
I work with film and here is a scanned photo of a fomapan 100 negative. And the drawing is of course made under krita, with a graphic tablet.

I think the developers of darktable do a stellar job, because since I started to use Dt, I continued to learn quickly and abandoned without problems several other applications for the same job.

Anyway, for me it looks like, Dt is evolving even more, so I am wondering innocently why some painting feature can’t be added to Dt as well, instead to add dependencies for one single feature, indifferently how well that single feature is working…

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:heart_eyes:

Thanks Aurelien and all other DT deveolpers and contributors for your awesome work.
I came back to a lot of old edits this weekend with DT 3.2.1 and used the new linear RGB workflow. It is awesome, I was even able to recover images that I painfully discarded because I could not get where I wanted because of halos or weird effects after too much processing in the LAB workflow.
Now much of what I want can be achieved in less steps, but most importantly can be achieved.

I love the sound of using any software for dodging and burning in that linear RGB space that does the magic. If it’s Krita then Krita it is.

Actually you gave me the clue I was looking for for that.

Even if it’s not implemented in DT yet, I will start learning krita ASAP.
Any tips on where to start looking for good tutorials on it?

Thanks again!!!

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@glantucan: You can dodge and burn in darktable itself — even in linear space!

The completely manual method: Duplicate an exposure module and set it to expose higher (dodge) or lower (burn) and use a drawn mask (an icon at the bottom of the module) to control it. If you control-click on the paintbrush in the mask settings, you can continually add strokes. After you’re done, feather the mask to make it more elegantly match your surroundings.

Alternatively, use the tone equalizer to do this all for you.

In most cases, it’s enough by itself, but if you want to do something additional, you can combine it with the duplicated exposure module technique above. When using both techniques, you might want to stack the additional exposure modules used for dodging and/or burning above the equalizer (control-shift drag to reorder the additional equalizer modules; something you generally shouldn’t do) so they take effect afterward, else they would also effect the tone equalizer (and you might not want this).

Watch Aurélien’s excellent video on “dodging and burning with the tone equalizer”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzACn3l49HM (It’s long, but explains everything about the module, including history and techniques of dodging and burning, which you may want to skip.)

And, of course, if none of this works for you, then you could always resort to editing in Krita. But it’s best to try to keep edits in darktable when you can. :wink:

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That’s actually what I’ve been doing and it works perfectly almost all the time.

… except I didn’t pay attention to the ordering of the stack of dodges and burns respect to the tone equalizer, so thanks for that @garrett, I will pay attention to it from now on. Probably some weird behavior I was having on some of my edits were caused by that.

But, actually, my wording wasn’t right because I was thinking also about painting, cloning, removing distracting elements, etc. when I was thinking about dodge and burn.

Some of that can be done in DT too with some spot removal and retouch trickery but that makes DT lag a lot after a few module instances on my machine.

For studio photography I probably never would go out of darktable, but for street photography I need to clean up quite a lot some of the images.

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