When my machine rolled off the production line, Rick Astley was still in the charts!
You don’t need a state-of-the-art setup for standard photography workflows (that is, not unless you have something especially demanding in mind).
If you’re also planning to use it for things such as video editing and/or 3D modelling, though, you’ll definately need a bit more under the hood; in this case, a budget gaming P.C. is likely your best bet.
A small chassis has the power supply outside. I would prefer a bigger one with passive cooling to get a silent pc, but this could become outside your budget.
I’ve been looking to build a new system myself, but €800 is really tight my opinion. (Yes, you can get much cheaper systems, but not for Blender / Darktable / graphics…
That’s €1.197 without monitor, keyboard, mouse…
You can of course try to reduce the price by only adding 16gb of memory, picking a smaller ssd, go with an older gpu like the rtx2060…
Darktable really gets a significant boost from enabling OpenCL. My linux system does not have a dedicated GPU, my Windows system does. If I have to wait 10 seconds each time I change a parametric maks, it become really tedious…
I am in the same boat as you, however my budget can be a bit more stretched, I think
Maybe read this https://www.cgdirector.com/best-pc-for-photo-editing. Good site for non-gamer content creators, which is a real relief! Just keep in mind it is Adobe oriented, but to my knowledge are these workloads for Photoshop and LR quite similar to Darktable and Gimp.
I think your proposed setup is rather good, but if your budget is tight you can go for 16GB ram and 1TB SSD. An internal 4GB hard-disk or less is cheaper and can store more content.
Your GPU takes a lot of your budget. You can do with less. GPU benchmarks in darktable to get an idea of the impact of a GPU.
Another option is to look for a second hand gamer setup or buy all hardware new except the GPU, and buy this one second hand from a gamer that has upgraded to yet another crazy expensive GPU.
Good luck. I know it is a time consuming exercise to separate the marketing talk from the real useful information.
It’s worth looking into Arc when it comes to the GPU, they are cheap for what they provide as some benchmarks here have shown. Linux is still gaining support but it will only get better with time and when it comes to compute I doubt there’s any competition at their price range.
Just came across the „Intel NUC 11 Enthusiast Kit NUC11PHKi7C“. It has an RTX2060 on board and a nice form factor. Would this be a viable solution for DT and Blender?
Just googled that one. Does it include RAM? I only see “up to”. Not quite in you originally stated price range either.
I was looking at hardware like GPUs last year and found that they are very expensive to buy standalone, but much cheaper when they are integrated into systems - especially laptops. Then I bought a Lenovo laptop (directly from Lenovo) for my work for 999€ and it runs darktable fine (never tried blender). It has a RTX 3060 onboard which wasn’t noticable in the price. That’s a Yoga Slim 7 Pro 16. Also comes with a very nice screen and keyboard. Some other candidates that looked very promising were called “ThinkBook” - they are cheaper than the "ThinkPad"s in some ways, but still have good hardware inside.
What I noticed though is that I really need to configure swap space, or the programs will just start crashing with 16 GB RAM, so 32 would be better. With swap it’s o.k., though.
There exist configurations with RAM. True, it is above my original price range but I realized I gave to adapt it. But still form factor plays an important rule due to place constraints.
What kind of things do you want to do? For example, if you want to edit images with darktable, that’s what I wanted to do. My pictures are quite large, but my xeon workstation has 128GB RAM. Still darktable was not able to calculate my gigapixel photos.
So there is always the question of the available input material and the desired output, to decide what can be the right system or software…
Besides the usual office stuff, it is editing my Z6 Raws with DT. In addition, i started getting more into 3d with Blender. So far no high end GPU/CPU needed but a small form factor computer allowing decent photo and 3D work.
Ok, these are probably normal things that you can still handle on many systems. Darktable itself is quite resource hungry, but that won’t be the problem in the end…
Why do you want to leave Apple when you could get an M1 for the money, which could be an optimal system for your request?