Blown out highlights in setting sun - how to reconstruct and avoid banding (xtrans)

Hi,

I have trouble getting this image to look nice.
Thought everything was fine until I exported it and saw the banding around the sun.
Would love any tips or ideas on how to avoid that.
JPG was created with quality at 100% but only half size.
I’ve tried different method of the highlight recounstruction module but they all seem to give the same result.

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Yeah, shooting straight into the sun, which seems to be behind some thin clouds. Banding galore. This is what I could manage.


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What about that?

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Different look to compensate

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Thank you for the suggestions. I’ve certainly learned a few things already.

@priort you seem to be blending the sun mostly through the skew parameter of sigmoid as well as some clever use of the tone equalizer module. Seems like I have to read up on mask blend modes? Unfortunately I dont like that this also changes the colours so drastically. Not even because I dont like the colours but I’d rather have a method that changes only the banding and leave colour alone.

@Popanz Very clever! Just smoothing the transition area. I actually love this approach. It’s very pragmatic and also doesn’t influence any other parts of the image.

With DT 4.7-972
With “sigmoidal” module and the original warm shot you get a very nice light yellow halo diffused around the sun: :wink:


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Greetings!

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Tough one for sure… best I could come up with was to brighten the highlights a bit so as to push that section further into sigmoid’s desaturation. Still not quite right.
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Does this look like what you saw?

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How about bathing in warm light?


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Filmic HLR and setting the threshold and transition right you can use the bloom slider to help with the banding…

This image has such a range of possibilities from a totally dark silhouetted foreground to something lightened but the filmic HLR should be able to get the banding under control with some fiddling…


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Yeah, I had that at one point, but I decided it didn’t do justice to the scene.

Why not? It’s sunset. It’s not unusual to have such a light.

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Quick one:
Slight increase in sigmoid skew, highlight reconstruction method reconstruct in LHC and clipping threshold lowered.
Also tone eq preset relight.

I do like the smooth transition, but I dont quite understand - what is the “sigmoidal module”?
I do know (and love) “sigmoid” but havent heard of “sigmoidal”…

It was actually a bit warmer. But tbh it gets harder to remember the actual scene since I’ve seen and edited this so many times already. And the original is from 2021. But anyways I do remember it warmer. More in the direction of @Popanz second edit.

Thanks for the idea - I mostly switched to Sigmoid for its simplicity over filmic but the reconstruction in filmic is a lot more powerful and works pretty well for this image.

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I do actually remember it as a really pretty warm sunset.
I’d probably dial it back a touch but it is pretty close to what I remember.

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I am not a native English speaker…
sigmoidal = sigmoid