Call for white balance finetuning samples

You made me look :slight_smile:. At least for Canon,

WB Shift AB: 9 <--- positive number

corresponds to “A9” in the camera interface, with the point in the “A” edge of the 2D color map.

Oh! That’ll help me with writting wiki for it! thank you!

I needed 0 on green-magenta axis (so in your case - centered horizontal axis and maximally down on vertical axis). If I’m not mistaken it would then read R: 0 B: -9 in camera :slight_smile:

Yep, exactly!

You are welcome!
Just to be sure: do you want the opposite of blue, i.e. yellow, or the opposite of cyan, i.e. orange?
Because on my lumix camera the B-A axis goes from cyan to orange, but on my fuji camera the B axis goes from blue to yellow…

Opposite of blue :slight_smile:

It’s really weird on cameras:
On canon on one side you’ve got pure red and on another pure blue.
On nikon it seems to go from cyan to redish-orange
on fuji from blue to yellow
on panasonic from cyan to orange…

It’s hard to adequatly say which axis needs to be changed and that’s why I think it’s important for me to know and be able to help others :slight_smile:

In my Olympus EM-1 Mark 1 I can finetune (never used that before …) between ±7A and ±7 G

I’ve used A+7, G0. I hope it’s that what you need…

White Balance 2 : 5300K (Fine Weather)
White Balance Temperature : 5300
White Balance Bracket : 7 0
WB RB Levels : 548 374 256 256
WB RB Levels 3000K : 282 772 256 256
WB RB Levels 3300K : 344 618 256 256
WB RB Levels 3600K : 368 570 256 256
WB RB Levels 3900K : 392 532 256 256
WB RB Levels 4000K : 476 610 256 256
WB RB Levels 4300K : 418 506 256 256
WB RB Levels 4500K : 466 516 256 256
WB RB Levels 4800K : 452 468 256 256
WB RB Levels 5300K : 482 436 256 256
WB RB Levels 6000K : 518 400 256 256
WB RB Levels 6600K : 552 428 256 256
WB RB Levels 7500K : 562 346 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB1 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB2 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB3 : 384 384 256 256
WB RB Levels CWB4 : 384 384 256 256
White Balance : Manual
White Balance : Manual
White Balance 2 : 5300K (Fine Weather)
Make : OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
Camera Model Name : E-M1

Yes it is! Thanks! So olympus uses WhiteBalanceBracket :slight_smile: that’ll help :slight_smile:

So here it is again, opposite of the blue color, for my lumix FZ1000:
WB RGB Levels 1 : 603 256 470
WB RGB Levels 2 : 649 256 427
WB RGB Levels 3 : 684 256 404
WB RGB Levels 4 : 432 256 686
WB RGB Levels 5 : 641 256 448
WB RGB Levels 6 : 605 256 480
WB RGB Levels 7 : 432 256 686
WB CFA0 Level Daylight : 1024
WB CFA1 Level Daylight : 2420
WB CFA2 Level Daylight : 1923
WB CFA3 Level Daylight : 1024
WB Red Level Auto : 2413
WB Blue Level Auto : 1882
White Balance : Daylight
Make : Panasonic
Camera Model Name : DMC-FZ1000
WB Shift AB : -9
WB Shift Intelligent Auto : 0
WB Shift Creative Control : 0
WB Shift GM : 9

Photo of the setting for my lumix to be sure I did the right thing:
XT203002

Note that I added the -WBShiftGM option to exiftools just in case.

And for fuji xt20:
WB GRB Levels Standard : 302 373 875 17 302 627 486 21
WB GRB Levels Auto : 302 579 547
WB GRB Levels : 302 555 562
White Balance : Daylight
Make : FUJIFILM
Camera Model Name : X-T20
White Balance Fine Tune : Red +0, Blue -180

another image for wiki :slight_smile: thanks! but only needed A-B axis, center on V-M axis :slight_smile: No need to repeat, you’ve send enough for me to finish script changes. Thanks!

Samsung NX1
(whitebalance was set to Daylight)

Maximally towards amber:

WB RGGB Levels Uncorrected      : 8208 4096 4096 5568
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 8208 4096 4096 5568
WB RGGB Levels Illuminator 1    : 5296 4096 4096 10992
WB RGGB Levels Illuminator 2    : 7328 4096 4096 6704
WB RGGB Levels Black            : 128 128 128 128
WB RGGB Levels                  : 8080 3968 3968 5440
White Balance                   : Manual
Make                            : SAMSUNG
Camera Model Name               : NX1

One step before max amber:

WB RGGB Levels Uncorrected      : 8096 4096 4096 5728
WB RGGB Levels Auto             : 8096 4096 4096 5728
WB RGGB Levels Illuminator 1    : 5296 4096 4096 10992
WB RGGB Levels Illuminator 2    : 7328 4096 4096 6704
WB RGGB Levels Black            : 128 128 128 128
WB RGGB Levels                  : 7968 3968 3968 5600
White Balance                   : Manual
Make                            : SAMSUNG
Camera Model Name               : NX1
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Thank you. It seems like Samsung does not advertise any WB shift or anything like this for NX1 ;(

Here you go, for Nikon D7000. Range is +/- 6, no halves.

LCD shot to ensure I got what you want:

WB RB Levels                    : 2.19921875 1.2421875 1 1
WB GRBG Levels                  : 256 563 318 256
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D7000
White Balance Fine Tune         : -6 0
WB RB Levels                    : 2.16796875 1.265625 1 1
WB GRBG Levels                  : 256 555 324 256
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D7000
White Balance Fine Tune         : -5 0

Not sure if you have all you need yet for X-T20; I can get that for you as well if you need it.

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Hi there,
here comes the values for my Nikon D7500 (-6,0 and -5,5 - both showing up as -6,0)

AMBER fully to the right
========================
WB RB Levels                    : 2.493652344 1.361816406 1 1
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D7500
White Balance Fine Tune         : -6 0


AMBER and from there -0,5 to the left
=====================================
WB RB Levels                    : 2.47265625 1.373046875 1 1
White Balance                   : Sunny
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D7500
White Balance Fine Tune         : -6 0
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Thank you!

I managed to make Nikon & canon cameras finetuning to work perfectly with new bettered darktable finetuning script :wink:

I would now need more samples however more complex ones :confused:

I’ll let everybody know the details soon!

Let us know what you need, and we’ll try to gather it.

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WB RB Levels                    : 2.026855469 1.333007812 1 1
White Balance                   : Natural Auto
Make                            : NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model Name               : NIKON D850
White Balance Fine Tune         : -6 0
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Hi All!

Adjustments and additions were done and I think I’m on good path :slight_smile:

New steps and convenience script were added to 1st post, please take a look :slight_smile:

@Jade_NL - can you do the new steps with your Panasonic DC-LX100M2?
@Claes - can you try new steps with your Fuji X-T1? (the LX3 stuff works!)
@mrwsl - can you try new steps with your Sony Alpha 6000?
@Thomas_Gulmark - Your data is very good ! can you try and do the new steps with Pentax K1?
@rawfiner - can you try new steps with Lumix FZ1000? As for fuji XT-20 I’m having a problem with fuji so I’ll DM you for broader set of data/different steps :slight_smile:
@wiegemalt - Can you try the new steps with your Olympus EM-1 M1?
@torebu - can you check new steps with Samsung NX1? I might’ve missed some data previously.

Generally I need more samples from Sony/Samsung/Panasonic/Pentax/Olympus & others :slight_smile:
Nikon & Canon seem to now be “guaranteed to work” :smiley:

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Here you are:

Panasonic DC-LX100M2

darktable-whitebalance-20200403.tar.bz2 (836 Bytes)

This info is not extracted, but all 3:
WB Incandescent
ISO 200
f/1.8
1/8s

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Fuji X-T1:
darktable-whitebalance-20200403.tar.bz2 (477 Bytes)
DSCF5794.RAF (32.0 MB)
DSCF5793.RAF (32.0 MB)
DSCF5792.RAF (32.0 MB)

Have fun!
Claes in Lund, Sweden

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Make : RICOH IMAGING COMPANY, LTD.
Camera Model Name : PENTAX K-S2
White Balance : Daylight
White Point : 20576 8192 8192 12352
WB Shift AB : -7
WB Shift GM : 0

White Point : 20288 8192 8192 12544
WB Shift AB : -6
WB Shift GM : 0

White Point : 18560 8192 8192 13888
WB Shift AB : 0
WB Shift GM : 0

darktable-whitebalance-20200404.tar.bz2 (460 Bytes)

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Make : SONY
Camera Model Name : DSC-RX100M3
WB RGB Levels : 627 256 485
WB RGGB Levels Auto : 2524 1024 1024 1948
WB RGGB Levels : 3044 1024 1024 1444
WB RGB Levels Daylight : 2472 1024 1832
WB RGB Levels Cloudy : 2656 1024 1684
WB RGB Levels Tungsten : 1556 1024 3232
WB RGB Levels Flash : 2844 1024 1556
WB RGB Levels 4500K : 2240 1024 2056
WB RGB Levels Shade : 2912 1024 1520
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent : 2300 1024 2560
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P1 : 2356 1024 1844
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P2 : 2612 1024 1644
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent M1 : 1804 1024 3128
WB RGB Levels 8500K : 3052 1024 1440
WB RGB Levels 6000K : 2636 1024 1700
WB RGB Levels 3200K : 1732 1024 2816
WB RGB Levels 2500K : 1360 1024 3860
Color Temperature : Auto
White Balance : Daylight
Color Compensation Filter : 0
WB Shift AB GM : 7 0
White Balance Fine Tune : 0
Color Temperature : Auto
Red Balance : 2.972656
Blue Balance : 1.410156

Make : SONY
Camera Model Name : DSC-RX100M3
WB RGB Levels : 627 256 485
WB RGGB Levels Auto : 2520 1024 1024 1948
WB RGGB Levels : 2952 1024 1024 1496
WB RGB Levels Daylight : 2472 1024 1832
WB RGB Levels Cloudy : 2656 1024 1684
WB RGB Levels Tungsten : 1556 1024 3232
WB RGB Levels Flash : 2844 1024 1556
WB RGB Levels 4500K : 2240 1024 2056
WB RGB Levels Shade : 2912 1024 1520
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent : 2300 1024 2560
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P1 : 2356 1024 1844
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P2 : 2612 1024 1644
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent M1 : 1804 1024 3128
WB RGB Levels 8500K : 3052 1024 1440
WB RGB Levels 6000K : 2636 1024 1700
WB RGB Levels 3200K : 1732 1024 2816
WB RGB Levels 2500K : 1360 1024 3860
Color Temperature : Auto
White Balance : Daylight
Color Compensation Filter : 0
WB Shift AB GM : 6 0
White Balance Fine Tune : 0
Color Temperature : Auto
Red Balance : 2.882813
Blue Balance : 1.460938

Make : SONY
Camera Model Name : DSC-RX100M3
WB RGB Levels : 627 256 485
WB RGGB Levels Auto : 2516 1024 1024 1948
WB RGGB Levels : 2472 1024 1024 1832
WB RGB Levels Daylight : 2472 1024 1832
WB RGB Levels Cloudy : 2656 1024 1684
WB RGB Levels Tungsten : 1556 1024 3232
WB RGB Levels Flash : 2844 1024 1556
WB RGB Levels 4500K : 2240 1024 2056
WB RGB Levels Shade : 2912 1024 1520
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent : 2300 1024 2560
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P1 : 2356 1024 1844
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent P2 : 2612 1024 1644
WB RGB Levels Fluorescent M1 : 1804 1024 3128
WB RGB Levels 8500K : 3052 1024 1440
WB RGB Levels 6000K : 2636 1024 1700
WB RGB Levels 3200K : 1732 1024 2816
WB RGB Levels 2500K : 1360 1024 3860
Color Temperature : Auto
White Balance : Daylight
Color Compensation Filter : 0
WB Shift AB GM : 0 0
White Balance Fine Tune : 0
Color Temperature : Auto
Red Balance : 2.414063
Blue Balance : 1.789063

darktable-whitebalance-20200404.tar.bz2 (833 Bytes)

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