Cannot find updated lens profiles from the LCP file menu

I downloaded and installed the latest Adobe DNG Converter with the intention of updating the set of lens profiles to which I have access from RT. However, when I go to the Transform tab and click the “LCP file” radio button under “Profiled Lens Corrections”, it takes me to a menu of folders containing only very old profiles - for example, the Nikon folder includes only a limited set of lenses with older-vintage DSLRs as well as some old Coolpix and Nikon 1 models.

No doubt I’m missing something that should be obvious. I’d appreciate any and all help in figuring this out.

Thanks…

You are pointing to C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\LensProfiles\1.0 ?

Regarding Nikon, this is what I got from Adobe:

COOLPIX P6000 (Nikon 6-24mm f2.7-5.9).lcp
COOLPIX P6000 (Nikon 6-24mm f2.7-5.9) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 AW1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR AW 10mm f2.8) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 AW1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR AW 11-27.5mm f3.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR 11-27.5mm f3.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 10-30mm f3.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J2 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR 32mm f1.2) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J3 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 10-100mm f4-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J3 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 10-30mm f3.5-5.6 PD-ZOOM) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J3 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 6.7-13mm f3.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J3 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 70-300mm f4.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 J3 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR PD-Zoom 10-100mm f4.5-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 V1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR 10mm f2.8) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 V1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR 18.5mm f1.8) - RAW.lcp
NIKON 1 V1 (Nikon 1 NIKKOR VR 30-110mm f3.8-5.6) - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX A - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX B700 - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P330 - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P330 v2 - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P340 - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P340 v2 - RAW.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P7000.lcp
NIKON COOLPIX P7100.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF NIKKOR 28-105mm f3.5-4.5D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF NIKKOR 28-200mm f3.5-5.6G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 10-20mm f4.5-5.6G VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f4.5-5.6E ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S Fisheye NIKKOR 8-15mm f3.5-4.5E ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 105mm f1.4E ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f1.4E ED) - RAW vig.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f5.6 PF ED VR +1.4x) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f5.6 PF ED VR +1.7x) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f5.6 PF ED VR +2.0x) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f5.6 PF ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON CORPORATION (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 800mm f5.6E FL ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D200 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 16-80mm f2.8-4E ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-140mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-300mm f3.5-6.3G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f3.5-5.6G VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 55-200mm f4-5.6G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D300S (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f3.5-4.5G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3300 (Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3300 (Nikon AF-P DX NIKKOR 18-55mm F3.5-5.6G VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3300 (Nikon AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f4.5-6.3G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3300 (Nikon AF-P NIKKOR 70-300mm f4.5-6.3G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF NIKKOR 14mm f2.8D ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF NIKKOR 24-85mm f2.8-4D IF) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF NIKKOR 85mm f1.4D IF) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 18-35mm f3.5-4.5G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f5.6E ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200mm f2G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 20mm f1.8G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f2.8E ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24mm f1.8G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f4E PF ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f1.8G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 400mm f2.8E FL ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f4E FL ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f4E FL ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f2.8E FL ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S VR Micro-Nikkor 105mm f2.8G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF-S Zoom-NIKKOR 28-70mm f2.8D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon AF VR Zoom-NIKKOR 80-400mm f4.5-5.6D ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR 24mm f2.8 AI) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR 50mm f1.2 AIS) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR 50mm f1.4 AIS) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR 50mm f1.8 AI) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR-H Auto 50mm f2) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR-P.C Auto 105mm f2.5 AI) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3 (Nikon NIKKOR-UD Auto 20mm f3.5 AI) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF DC-NIKKOR 105mm f2D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF DC-NIKKOR 135mm f2D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF Micro-NIKKOR 200mm f4D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF Micro-NIKKOR 60mm f2.8D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 180mm f2.8D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 20mm f2.8D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 24mm f2.8D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 28mm f2.8D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 35mm f2D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f1.4D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF NIKKOR 85mm f1.8D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S Micro NIKKOR 60mm f2.8G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 16-35mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-400mm f4G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-120mm f4G ED VR) v2 - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24mm f1.4G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 28-300mm f3.5-5.6 ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f2.8G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 300mm f4D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f1.4G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 400mm f2.8G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f1.4G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f1.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 85mm f1.4G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S VR NIKKOR 200mm f2G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S VR NIKKOR 300mm f2.8G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 200-400mm f4G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S VR Zoom-NIKKOR 24-120mm f3.5-5.6G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 17-35mm f2.8D IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f2.8D ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 14-24mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 14-24mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 16mm f2.8 D).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 16mm f2.8 D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 24-70mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 24-70mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 50mm f1.8 D).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 50mm f1.8 D) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 70-200mm f2.8 G IF ED).lcp
NIKON D3X (Nikon FX 70-200mm f2.8 G IF ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX HSM).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 12-24mm f4.5-5.6 EX HSM) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 15mm f2.8 EX).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 15mm f2.8 EX) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 8mm f3.5 EX).lcp
NIKON D3X (Sigma DG 8mm f3.5 EX) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D4 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 85mm f1.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D5 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 180-400mm f4E TC1.4 FL ED VR + 1.4x) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f3.5-4.5G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f1.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 58mm f1.4G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f2.8G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f4G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 80-400mm f4.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon FX 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G IF-ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D700 (Nikon FX 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G IF-ED VR v2) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Micro-NIKKOR 40mm f2.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Micro NIKKOR 85mm f3.5G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 10-24mm f3.5-4.5G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 16-85mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-55mm f3.5-5.6G VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f1.8G) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX VR Zoom-NIKKOR 55-200mm f4-5.6G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 12-24mm f4G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 17-55mm f2.8G IF-ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-NIKKOR 18-55mm f3.5-5.6G ED II) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 55-300mm f4.5-5.6G ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 10.5mm f2.8 G ED).lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 10.5mm f2.8 G ED) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 G ED IF).lcp
NIKON D90 (Nikon DX 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 G ED IF) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 18-200mm f3.5-6.3).lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 18-200mm f3.5-6.3) - RAW.lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 4.5mm f2.8 HSM).lcp
NIKON D90 (Sigma DC 4.5mm f2.8 HSM) - RAW.lcp
NIKON (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 180-400mm f4E TC1.4 FL ED VR + 1.4x) - RAW.lcp
NIKON (Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 180-400mm f4E TC1.4 FL ED VR) - RAW.lcp
NIKON (Nikon NIKKOR 28mm f2.8 AIS) - RAW.lcp
NIKON (Nikon NIKKOR-S.C Auto 50mm f1.4) - RAW.lcp

I think there are no more recent cams / lenses (like Nikkor Z) from Nikon as they have lens correction embedded. So Adobe doesn’t have any need for creating lcp.

Edit: I think it also doesn’t matter if the cameras in the list are older than yours, as long as it’s the same sensor size. E.g. if there is a profile made with a D3300 you don’t have to redo it with a D7500.

Thanks very much for your helpful reply!

Yes, that is indeed the file that I have for Nikon. My bad: had I looked at folders for other companies, which I did just now, it would have been apparent that those do have recent lenses included, so the issue is Nikon-specific.

If Adobe is relying on Nikon-specified corrections, do I understand correctly that those are embedded in the NEF file? If so, does RT know how to read those? I have recently been working with files captured with the new Nikkor Z DX 24/1.7 lens, and there is linear distortion and illumination falloff apparent that RT is not correcting, regardless of which radio button I select in “Profiled Lens Correction”.

Yes.

I’m on Nikon Z too. At the moment RT can’t use the embedded profiles. I don’t think it can do so with any manufacturer at all. I also don’t see that this is been worked on atm.

OK, got it.

Not a show-stopper, as so far the available manual corrections for distortion and vignetting have been sufficient. If at some point I run into a lens with strong mustache-profile linear distortion I might need to wrestle with the Adobe lens profile creator utility.

Thanks for your help, much appreciated!

Or with hugin to create a lensfun profile. There should be tutorials around here (or there). But I don’t know which way is easier.

My personal difficulty with the images required for a lensfun profile was those for CA. I could find virtually nothing locally that fit the bill, subject-matter-wise. Even if I had, I suspect a guy shooting a bunch of photos of a public / commercial building might garner a bit of local law enforcement attention. Maybe not, but just sayin’ … :slight_smile:

I ended up creating a few profiles using the Adobe tool and it wasn’t particularly difficult. I shot the images in my kitchen / dining room.

One debatable (?) “easier” aspect is that one set of photos is all that’s needed for all corrections* at a given focal length. However, I ended up with several sets of profiles, each for a specific focal length. I don’t know how they can be combined / created into one profile for all focal lengths (with extrapolation, I’m sure) but apparently they can be as I’ve seen them. But I found no info on that process online nor in the documentation. The Adobe tool is deprecated but still workable.

* That is, the same set of images will work for CA, vignetting and geometric distortion.

Wouldn’t it be possible to just copy and paste the different focal lenghts by hand into one file?

As there seems to be only simple text stuff in the files. But probably the ones from the creator look different.

That might indeed work and I thought about it, but never went back and researched the structure well enough to convince myself. That may well be how it’s done, though. Maybe the focal lengths are searched / matched or interpolated as needed. Not sure how that works.

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That’s why using the lensfun library is helpful, it’ll take a list of corrections for various focal lengths of a lens and interpolate between the closest two for the as-shot focal length.

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Yes, I’ve seen this. I rather meant the function to use embedded data in RT at all.

Maybe it’s too early? As I understand it, people are still trying to decipher Nikon’s metadata.

Isn’t there a kind of lens correction in RT based on comparing the embedded JPG with the raw? I don’t use RT, so I don’t know if / how well it works in practice. And surely, extracting the correction data instead of estimating it based on analysing the embedded JPG is a much better method, if it’s available.

https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Lens/Geometry#Geometric_Distortion
Of course that depends on the JPG being corrected in-camera.

I think so, since dt team also have just started.

How about: not at all? Have just found that it crashes… Well, I’m off to github then. :upside_down_face:

Its just users here on the forum. It doesn’t have anything to do with the editor (yet). We are trying to figure out what the numbers are and what formula is being used. When that’s figured out, any editor can take that information and use it.

Here also I rather meant the function to use embedded lens correction in DT in general, which I think was introduced in 4.2? However, I will monitor the progress and see if I can support with my only Z-Lens I have. :point_up: