critique of new work

At the beginning of the year I thought I wpuld ike to see more image critiques here, and I should be the one to spur that change. In typical fashion, it has taken me months, and not wanting to slip into August with nothing, here I am.

A lot of my work has been very much in the vein of what is shown here. A lot of it not fancy places, but rather blocks from my home or a short car ride away. I’ve been trying to push the graphic nature, the arrangement of objects in the frame, really leaning into the 2d-ness of the photographic medium.

Part of the struggle is sufficient compositional complexity, as too simple is just boring, but too much comes quickly and leads to a cluttered feel.













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My favorite is the steel doors.

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I like these. I typically find it hard to give critique as I always feel that I’m going to be biased by my own preferences, which have nothing to do with the quality of other people’s work. In other words I find it hard to view images impersonally if that makes sense.

But I can take it alright lol. :wink:
And I can try, just bear in mind the above - TLDR I’m not a good critic.

Your set of images here, I admire the way that you’ve taken commonplace objects and ‘abstractified’ them very successfully. They have (for me) a rather bleak, hot and dusty feel to them which I find a little offputting or stifling… but actually, I suppose that may be the intent and/or it may be representative of the reality.

You asked for it… :sweat_smile:

EDIT: I also like the principle of local photography, i.e.

and traditionally a lot of my favorite shots have been like this. I guess I lean more into the natural world though, although I dunno really.

Random thought… are you thinking of individual critique topics, or would it perhaps work well to have a thread like the long running ‘charge your battery…’ thread but for critique?

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As I’ve mentioned to you before these are definitely my sort of images – simple graphical/textural studies.

The thing I notice, particularly on the first and last image, is the slightly off-centre framing. It seems kind of “uncomfortable” for want of a better word. Is that intentional?

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I would still find the new perspective useful! Part of a critique is seeing things from a different vantage point.

Oh good, part of the overall feeling of these is urban bleekness, loneliness, being lost in the masses of the city… Things like that.

Well if your dwelling is in nature, then you’d be in nature locally. I just happen to be in the middle of Los Angeles, so shooting regularly means in the city.

It was more the idea that you don’t have to travel to all these exotic places to make photos and what is around you is likely great if you choose to see it that way. :slight_smile:

I would like it if there is a new thread for each set of images to critique. It will make it difficult for me to refer back to people’s comments if this thread hits 2k posts with everyone’s comments and critiques mixed together. The capture challenge thread is much more casual IMO.

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Off center or off axis? I make use of the rortate and perspective module to “flatten out” the look of the image, but sometimes if I was not close enough to the sensor plane being perpendicular to the wall/fence/etc etc then using the rotate and perspective module gives it a weird look. In those cases I try and then not use it.

If you mean that the arrangement of the objects is off from being centered or on a rule.of thirds line, then yes, that is very intentional.

I’m talking about visual weight. For example, in the final image the three windows together have the greater visual weight and a “normal” approach would be to balance this by including more space to the left of the smaller window but you’ve gone the other way (leaving space on the right), which leaves the image feeling off-balance. There’s nothing wrong with doing this but it gives the image an uneasy quality. Similarly with the first two. With the third image, the wire (?) down the middle is just off-centre. A bit more to the left and it would look intentional but the way it is I don’t know if you’re trying to make me uneasy with your composition or not.

Of course it’s very possible I’m reading way more into these images than you’re intending.

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My favourite is the first, with second place going to the wooden fence.

That’s my least favourite :laughing: It has too much of a 3D feel for my taste.

This is a style I really like and has been dabbling in a bit myself (and will definitely be doing more of). Keep it up.

But then the spot on the wall would be off-center, and that has much more visual weight. If the wire was in the middle as well, that would make for a rather boring composition, I feel, whereas now it does give that slightly uneasy feeling (which I like).

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Ah, those are purposeful. I try to be meticulous since there is so little in the frame.

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Hmm maybe. My eye is drawn first to the contrast of the wire

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I like 1, 3 and 4. They look very thoughtfully composed and also have rather reduced, harmonic colour palettes. 2 doesn’t really fit in the series and generally also doesn’t work so well for me. I think there are too many different things in the frame and also the colours don’t harmonise so well (especially the green grass).

Of the four, 3 is my favourite. I would probably crop out the horizontal board at the bottom, though, as it is drawing my attention way too much down there.
The just-a-bit-off-centre wire also irritated me a bit first but after looking at it for a while, I think it is exactly where it should be.

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Fwiw, I imagine these as framed, giant Rothko-sized images in a gallery. I like the idea of Rothko-style monumental abstraction but using mundane American textures (white plastic, fencing, rendered brickwork) instead of his suggestion of grand horizons and landscapes (I think he denied that’s what they were).

I think they also have some affinity with Lewis Baltz but updated without the modernism, the call back to Walker Evans and so on, suggested by black and white images.

Edit: Alternatively, they could be the opposite. Small, like polaroids that you have to look at closely.

Aaaanyway…

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For me, these four photos are of stages, as in places where things might happen. Number 2 with the doors is most like a stage; we can identify the elements an the scale, and imagine how a human might fit into the scene. The others are more abstract, especially the last. What are those four rectangles? Are they windows? If those bricks are the conventional size, then the windows are very small. And what building would have four windows arranged like that? It is almost like a montage of two separate photos. Perhaps the brick wall is closer to us than the rendered wall, so the windows are actually larger than the bricks.

A common (and cliched) photographic technique is to put a human into the scene. Either wait for someone to come along, or use the photographer’s shadow, or whatever. But when we do this, the photo becomes about the person and the relationship between the person and the background; our gaze is directed to the person. When there is no person, the background becomes the foreground.

And these images are solidly about people. The scenes were clearly man-made; they are environments made by people for people. Nature has struggled to enter one scene, but it is not wanted, and it is not thriving. Dead leaves take as much space as the greenery, and even seem to be trying to escape out from between the doors. Or perhaps they are trying to get in.

These are images of very specific places, but not of specific times. If you re-took the photos a year later, the only change would be to the skimpy nature.

A lot of it not fancy places, …

To me, Los Angeles is a fancy place. I’ve only been there once, 30 years ago, three days for work, so I only saw it from car windows to and from the airport. It was very hot outside, but very cold inside buildings and cars. Your photos capture the heat and the man-madeness.

[My questions are rhetorical, reflecting my thoughts. Don’t feel you should answer them.]

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I wonder how they would look if the blacks/shadows were lifted to suggest that heat more and make them almost like colour palettes of man-madeness.

Good thought. I haven’t changed the color from what was captured really, and I don’t consider these finished edits. Either.

Thank you for the words, I’ll let them bounce around in my head for a bit.

Being very new to this I don’t know how to critique any photos outside of what appeals to me as far as composition, and photo quality in regards to what I think the context might be…but that’s it.
I like the subjects and the colours in your photos, but wish they had been framed or cropped a bit differently. It takes a lot to post photos for critique…and you won’t catch me doing it any time soon :laughing:

Now, as an aside…the carpenter in my head is absolutely screaming at the subjects in the photos…but that’s neither here nor there :laughing:

In what way?

I like these. I find that what draws my eyes in each is:

  1. the rust stain that might represent where a downspout used to be;
  2. the shadows from unseen wires;
  3. the stain on the wall;
  4. the strangely arranged windows.

In the first three, it’s vestiges of things either no longer there or outside of the frame.

I have always thought, “What’s the big deal about Rothko? I could do those with a paint roller.” There’s an exhibit in town right now that includes several of his works, and I plan to go see them to see if there is a something that isn’t apparent when seeing a photo of his work online. Kind of a thing for me right now…challenging my preconceived notions of various things, a.k.a don’t dump on something you haven’t experienced first-hand.

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Would you mind if I cropped them instead of just saying what I was thinking?

Ditto for me about critiquing work, but since Mica asked I would say I would look at the placement of the key point of interest and how the images are cropped to get the most impact.