Crop orientation "as image" not working as intended

Software RawTherapee
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Wondering if there’s another way to do what I mean to do before submitting a bug/request on GitHub.

How to replicate:

  • Take a landscape picture, crop it using the desired aspect ratio (say 3:2) and choosing “as image” on the orientation dropdown box.
  • Copy the current processing profile
  • Open a portrait picture (it also happens in reverse), paste processing profile
  • The picture will be cropped in landscape mode even though the box shows “as image”. Selecting another mode and then manually selecting “as image” then works as intended

Expected behavior
I expect the crop to adapt to the image I paste the profile to when choosing “as image” in the orientation dropdown.

RawTherapee 5.11 on Windows 10

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AFAIK the crop details contains only the the top left coordinate and the width and the height of the box. And that is applied to your target image when you paste the profile.

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I don’t think that’s the case: when I paste the profile the dropdown box shows “as image”, not “landscape”.
If everything that’s applied is a coordinate and two sizes, then the dropdown would show either “portrait” or “landscape”, based on which of the two dimensions is larger.

If it actually works like you say, I then guess it’s a feature request and not a bug report.

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Have a look at the two attached files which just consist of the crop details.

This is the relevant details from “portrait crop.pp3”

[Crop]
Enabled=true
X=800
Y=1367
W=2400
H=3600
FixedRatio=true
Ratio=3:2
Orientation=As Image
Guide=Rule of thirds

landscape crop.pp3 (182 Bytes)
portrait crop.pp3 (181 Bytes)

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Ok… so the Orientation is actually recorded… but IMHO doesn’t work in a way that’s conducive to a productive workflow.

I have two cameras whose RAW records some extra pixels on the long side of the sensor, so I always have to crop to obtain an exact 3:2 aspect ratio (it’s like 16 pixels, no big deal, but still). I imagine this is a pretty common occurrence.

When I select “As Image” manually, then the software works as expected, while when the “As Image” parameter is pasted from a profile, it doesn’t.

I’m going to open a feature request / suggestion on GitHub.
Thank you for your time.

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Not at a computer right now but it may be worth saving a pp3 and then deleting lines that specify dimensions or positions. I do it quite a lot to create presents that avoid overwriting fine grained settings. It would be UI overload to expose it but it’s useful to save in pp3.

So using @ChasingShadows example it would look like this.

[Crop]
Enabled=true
FixedRatio=true
Ratio=3:2
Orientation=As Image

You can the apply it as a processing profile. Im not sure it works as you want but its often a solution to similar issues.

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Thanks but nope, doesn’t work… RT just crops the image in its entirety, and it’s necessary to manually move the selection in order to get a true 3:2 aspect ratio.

In the meantime I found the thread in GitHub talking about this “bug” or “behavior” and posted there.
Thank you for your help.

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That problem can be solved in a different way, as RT doesn’t throw away the same amount of pixels as others.

Check and adjust the border settings (AFAIR the default is 4 pixels on each side)

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Yup, but I don’t usually crop in the center… have some more pixel, I just use them.

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Ah yes, remember this now. My default pp3 sets crop to 4:5 vertical but has the crop disabled. My most common crop is cropping portrait down to remove ground in my photos. By enabling crop it has the aspect ratio already set but as you say I have to “touch” the crop to enable it.