You donāt need to be afraid, filmic will play a very small role in the processing.
Interestingly, my experience has shown that a large part of the people I have dealt with who have difficulties with Filmic - I know that sounds a bit arrogant - have knowledge gaps in other areas and think Filmic is the problem.
I linked the relevant manual section very early on in the thread. Youāve complained that it is too abstract, but the section I linked is literally numbered steps. Again I implore you to read this section.
This is a key point and filmic often gets treated as being equivalent or superior to a base curve or starting color profile in other software so people try to keep tweaking it to get something similar when this is not exactly what it provides . As you have shown many edits can even be done perfectly well without itā¦I even recently blended filmic in lightness blend mode just to see what it would do and in many cases I prefer the look although I may be introducing something elseā¦I think experimentation is really the key but some basic understanding of the color science and the math is very usefulā¦
reverse multiply is still thereā¦all reverse modes are invoked using the small icon to the right of the blend mode selectedā¦ this and other new features are documented hereā¦I think a German translation is available?? darktable 3.6: Summer Release 2021 | darktable
I am very pleased that you are so persistent and want to help, but I still understand too little to ask concrete questions.
Today I have again spent the whole day with 3.6, without it having brought me further. I have no more strength and it is very difficult for me to learn, understand and connect so much at once.
Thats a valid approach, but your issue would have been analyzed within a few posts if you just had provides a picture showing your issue and a xmp file of your usual edits.
Then itās quite easy to reproduce and find a solution.
But itās up to you to help the community helping youā¦
Iām looking at how to simplify the workflow section, and bring it up-to-date with the darktable 3.6 modules. I propose to drop the display-referred vs scene-referred discussion, and move the module non-recommended modules to an appendix. The idea is to provide a basic framework here, and possibly provide some worked examples in the Guides and Tutorials section. I would be interested to hear any feedback.
That is clear and excellent. I really like the way you explained it. I think if there was a way to work a pair of images in to your initial description of how lightable will show images initially by default as a jpg and then it goes to the relatively āunprocessedā version you describeā¦This often seems to generate a lot of question with thinking that DT has done something to their imagesā¦ but I really like it and i think it would be a very useful inclusion
I like this step by step approach, itās very clear and there is just enough description behind each point.
In the filmic RGB point you mention the white auto picker but not the black.
I know using the black auto picker isnāt as reliable as the white auto picker due to noise, so do you think new users will use the black auto picker, assume it works as well as the white auto picker, then be disappointed with the results ?
Iām unsure how to get the point across that the black auto picker may not work well, even if there is pure black in the image.
This is nice Matt I had been thinking more about how the lightroom preview is by default the jpg preview and the change in the image on the shift to darkroom view concerns many and leads them to think some thing is wrong. I think your images are great as is this add onā¦if it could be worked in that DT will initially preview images to appear as shown in figure 1 but will open and present as the raw file as shown in Figure 2 when you first go to darkroom and there after it might then be a clear description of the initial presentation and handling of images in the basic DT workflowā¦not sure of the wording but that is what I was thinkingā¦its a very nice little breakdown I like how it is presentedā¦
Thanks Todd. I added a remark to that effect, although I want to be careful not to get too bogged down in this overview section, and so I didnāt link this to the corresponding option in the preferences section.
Next step will be for @elstoc to review the PR and provide his view. If anyone has any further suggestions, feel free to write a comment on the PR.
Thank you very much for this, it is very helpful for me and exactly what I was looking for!
Please donāt think itās ignorance, but Iām working less intensively on it now because itās still quite difficult for me, especially with the English manual. I now occasionally practise with 3.6, but I will probably not change all the work until there is a German manual. @all:
Iām trying to learn more, but it takes a lot of time, itās very difficult for me and Iām learning very slowly. As I make progress, Iām sure more questions will come up.
Until then, thank you so much for all your help!
There is one article in cāt which explains - among other modules - filmicrgb. It appeared almost a year ago but I think itās not outdated yet. The title is āLandschaftsfotos optimieren mit Darktableā.
One or two weeks ago another article appeared in the computer journal Linux User about darktable 3.6. It also explains color balance rgb from a practical viewpoint.
I donāt want to link them here because they are behind a paywall. But at least the newer artice is not expensive I think.