Darktable 4.6 - is mass-paste (CTRL+SHIFT+V) working?

My current way of doing is

  1. I edit one of my images fully and then do a full copy of all settings/modules CTRL+SHIFT+C
  2. I select all raw images in the film-strip I want to have the same settings
  3. Press CTRL+SHIFT+V
  4. Nothing happens or only one of the selected images has pasted settings.

I have also noticed when I go back and forth and press CTRL+SHIFT+V it eventually works, but not the first time.

Am I missing something?

This definitely doesn’t work right…

Now I have selected 3 images, did a ctrl+shift+V and only got settings pasted on 2 images. The third had zero changes.

I then pressed the same Paste combo 2 more times and it finally worked.

Just to clarify, I do this in the filmstrip inside Darkroom tab.

It has occurred to me as well, but I always got it to work eventually. I thought it was only me. Though I never use the filmstrip: it occurred on the light table.

We shall file a bug report then. This is quite a major feature, at least for me.

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Working with Manjaro/Arch/XFCE Daily GIT.
Multiple cut/paste works just fine

It may be the darktable mouse hover issue: even if images are selected, if the mouse pointer is hovering over an unselected image, keyboard shortcuts work on the hovered-over image. This includes Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V as well. This means you may not be copying the history you intend to, and may not be pasting it in the history stack(s) you think you are.

I’ve now tested this locally, and it seems to be working fine, I just have to pay attention to this.
I don’t think this is explicitly described in the manual. It’s mentioned for tagging only, I think:

The attached tags section displays tag(s) attached to image(s), where those images are
under your mouse cursor (if hovering over an image in the lighttable view); or
currently selected (if not hovering over an image)

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I will test this myself, but generally I’ve got a problem with the workflow of DT.

Too many things that require an extra care or getting used to.
For example, I hate the behaviour of the filmstrip that moves when I select the image there, because it self-centres in the middle, always changing the position of the thumbnails based on your selection.

Even if you physically move the filmstrip yourself by a mouse wheel it will re-center again on your selection, messing up my mind-preview of the thumbnails that I had.

I don’t count how many times I’ve selected the wrong image when I was in a hurry.

Instead, let me move the filmstrip when I want it, just select the next image… don’t move.

Why are you doing CTRL-shift for both C and V. You only need it for one. Select the modules when copying or pasting. Not both.

Hmmm… there is probably a valid use for both. I’m sure there is. Are you needing to do selective paste? It doesn’t sound like it.

I tested it in Windows and it only works when your mouse is in the filmstrip.

It doesn’t matter if you use ctrl-shift+ or just ctrl+ it won’t paste anything on multiple images if your mouse is not positioned on the filmstrip.

  1. If your mouse is away from the filmstrip it won’t paste anything, regardless of your selection.
  2. If your mouse is positioned on the unselected image - it will paste the settings to that hovered image(!) and not to your selection!
  3. If your mouse is on the selected image(s) it will paste the settings to all selected images - sometimes.

I hope that’s a bug and not intended behaviour.

Mouse hover always trumps selections. It has been like this forever. Is it good or bad? Depends on how you feel about. There are several other threads discussing this at great length.

Fair enough, I can understand the hovering behaviour. Like - ‘do the paste on the image I hovered because it’s important but don’t add it to selection’

What I think it’s a bug is that pasting doesn’t work if a mouse is outside of the filmstrip.
Your mouse needs to be on the filmstrip even if you use CTRL+SHIFT+V, otherwise the paste won’t go anywhere.

Further, I encountered another bug where the thumbnail displays the pasted version even if you changed the original history to 0 and the image does not have any settings at all.

You should open a detailed bug report on github.

Isn’t it just Ctrl V for paste? I don’t think you need the SHIFT.

For what it’s worth, I used to hate the hover behaviour and it got me in trouble quite a few times. But I realized I had to get used to it because it seems to be fairly well established in the software. I barely notice it now because I’ve got the muscle memory. I actually find it can makes things quicker when you know what you’re doing. You can just hover and tap shortcut keys really quickly instead of clicking multiple times. However, I do feel your pain because I remember hating it at first.

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ani

Here’s that bug. Notice how the first thumbnail changes to overexposed, even though the original does not have any.
I don’t apply any changes, i just move the filmstrip back and forth.
It reverts back to correct values only when the image is selected, but doesn’t last long.

Ah… I don’t use the filmstrip at all. I use only the lighttable view for such operations.

Yes, it is “just ctrl-v” for paste. But selective paste is available too.

One can selective-copy and paste; or copy and selective-paste. And I learnt, yesterday that one can selective-copy and selective paste!

Them’s powerful options :smiley:

I really do not think that the ‘filmstrip’ was ever designed for that purpose.
^c/^v works just fine over single and multiple images on the lighttable where groups and individual selected images can be cloned.

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I understand ‘full safe’ Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V. I also understand selecting items with Ctrl+Shift+C and pasting with Ctrl+Shift+V. But:

  • what if I do a Ctrl+Shift+C, select a few (but not all) items, then I do a Ctrl+V?
  • what does it mean to do a Ctrl+Shift+C, and then pasting, using Ctrl+Shift+V, items that were not selected for Ctrl+Shift+C?

Sorry, I never use ‘Ctrl+Shift+C’ …
I select series with Shift+Click and individual images with Ctrl+Click
Then ^C/^V works perfectly well.
It appears that your problem is with the selection process and not with the copy/paste

The selective functions are invaluable. What if one has straightened or cropped the source image? It is very unlikely that pasting that will fit all the other images.

This are the things I most often “select out” of my copy paste. There are others. I’m sure the possibilities are limited only by what people can think of!

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