https://dsignweek.servus.at/program/sat-25/raw-entwicklung-mit-darktable/
It’s great that you are committed to bringing darktable and FOSS closer to people. I think many people don’t even know what “jewels” are “lying around” unused. One small thing to complain about
: darktable is written in lower case as a proper noun except at the beginning of a sentence (see faq | darktable).
So cool!! All the best for the workshop!
Sadly Linz is a “Weltreise” from Graz and I am already occupied for that weekend so it’s impossible to slip that trip inbetween.
That is correct, but in German proper nouns are uppercase, so you would need to use a stylized and graphically distinct version of the word “darktable” to show that you didn’t fail your grammar courses.
In the end I’d rather complain about an event calendar that makes reading the month and even the year a real challenge. I bet when running an accessibility test it will fail with glorious low scores. Whoever designed that site needs to take some serious courses in design and web-technology.
The event is organized by an art university, so probably some art student. As an Austrian, youshould know that Linz is an important center for contemporary/digital art…
And I have to add: they may not have made the website well but they have awesome SEO, and probably general marketing skills. The site is leading a lot of visitors to my website.
Wish I could be there.
Your linked page giving your publications is impressive. I jumped straight in to the article on qutebrowser, and am looking forward to exploring more of your output.
I hope your presentation runs smoothly and is fulfilling for you.
Ich drueck Dir die Daumen.
I know very well and I spent a lot of time there to really love it - even if life has kept me away from visiting more often.
Art is no excuse for bad crafts(wo)manship. It should be based on a great one.
And while the site is really beautiful to look at on a large desktop display, lesser so on mobile, it is really hard to find the relevant information. Maybe it is having graduated from the Fotokolleg at the Graphische in Vienna a long time ago or my current life as a student of SoftwareDesign at the FH Joanneum which is showing it’s effects. Either way, it’s just my opinion, so please feel free to ignore.
Also congrats on the extra traffic to your site - which I really enjoyed in it’s structured simplicity - it is well deserved.
That was my constant mantra when I was an art (graphic design) university student 40+ years ago: Form Follows Function. It should always “work”, it should strive to look good if at all possible.
Not a comment on this site (I’ve not looked yet), just a memory your post triggered.
I think I just realized that approximately half of the recent visitors of my website are actually coming from darktable@photog.social, because I asked @paperdigits to share the link. Those are all the Linux users. The other half are Mac/ios users… yesterday’s visitors were mostly Linux people, today almost all of them Apple.
(In German, most of the proper nouns are uppercase. Tanz mit darktable!)
Hey, @betazoid: How went the workshop?
Same in English. Do German publications use iPhone or Iphone?
I think it was ok. Well most participants were total beginnners, no experience with other raw software at all. I didn’t expect that. I tried to explain them what scene referred means and that was not so easy, well and things like that, compare filmic and sigmoid etc. I mean I think darktable is more a tool for advanced users, at least that was my conclusion after that day. On the other hand, users who have no adobe/commercial software experience, are less prejudiced. Anyway they were not linux people or developers. That was kind of a premiere, too. Nevertheless I hope the participants learned something. I should have mentioned though what the advantages of raw editing are.
But I am not the person to ask, I can’t judge myself.
But all in all it was a nice day, something like a mini libre graphics meeting. I only had time for one day, I wish I could have been present at the whole conference. I met nice and interesting people, also a lot of young people. But it’s not a very crowded conference.
Well maybe one more thing: of all the mac users who were referred to my website from the conference website, only one person actually came to the workshop.
Yes, but English is much more flexible in that regard because by writing darktable the authors defined it as common rather than proper. Not having any knowledge about the stylized typography “darktable” would be considered some thing instead of being a name for something concrete. In German there is no difference, noun is noun – so using “proper” in my phrase was rather unfortunate.
And the iPhone thing … well, I would consider that a clever usage of typography - because it is upper case even with the first letter being lower case. If darktable would have wanted to be written as dArktable there would be no need for a discussion about upper or lower case.
In the end it comes down to the same situation as there is with abbreviations: You have to be absolutely sure your audience already knows what they mean or you will have to do the explaining. For a 150 word announcement of a workshop that would surely be stretching the format and might even be off-putting or condenscending towards the audience. So you skip the 'plaining and stick to what the general audience will understand without a problem.
That sounds really cool. Thank you for sharing.
It is astonishingly in line with my experience of giving workshops. In the end you don’t want to reach all of the participants, getting a nice feedback of one or the other is awesome. And who knows what seeds you planted in some of them. ![]()
We are often our own worst critics ![]()
Though it may have been helpful to emphasize the why of raw development, as you allude to, the very fact that you had participants that had no raw development experience at all means you gave them an entry-point that is likely to be more helpful for some of them than the typical commercial software/subscription; especially more helpfully from a financial perspective.
Thank you for flying the FOSS flag!
Well actually, after the workshop I had a chat with a participant who had been to THE libre graphics meeting several times, we talked for about thirty minutes and during that time apparently other participants gave feedback to the organizers about my workshop. When I said good bye to the organizers, if I understood them correctly, they said that they want to invite me again.