What!, no darktable, no Rapid Photo Downloader, no…er…I could go on.
@Ofnuts we had some parasites both inside and outside but we’re clean now. We noticed that a lot of people abuse and hide behind FOSS or Open Source in general.
To answer your question guys, yes what you read on the “About Us” page is who we are.
It means that we are focused on helping free projects, something that you guys can’t see from the outside (speaking of added value) and we’re just getting started.
I am sorry that you guys see us as a software inventory, those are about to become history soon.
Regards,
FossHub team
That is the mystery to me… Helping how?
By doing the opposite of any other similar site until we reach our final goal or die.
Your question should be: is there anything that FossHub doesn’t do to help free projects?
Is this still a mystery to you?
Sorry, but… yes, it is.
To explain why it is not clear, let’s think for a moment that this is a job interview.
The recruiter asks: “Why should we hire you?”
Candidate replies: “I am better than all the others, 'cause I do not do any of their mistakes!”
Recruiter is still not convinced: “Ok, but how do you think you can help our company?”
Candidate answers: “By doing the opposite of any other person you can hire, until I’ve either finished my job or I am fired…”
Now I’m asking you: would you hire this person?
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Fair enough.
You guys mentioned ads. As you saw, there’s a single ad. I think we explained why we use that single ad; to gather some funds.
What do we do with the funds? We use them to support free projects.
How do we support them? By buying bandwidth, equipment/hardware, third-party services that are being used by such projects.
Other projects have different needs, and we also help them financially.
That being said, by simply visiting our site or recommending us you are in fact doing a favor to free projects that need help.
Any specific examples?
Examples:
Bandwidth - from CDNs
Storage - from CDNs
Dedicated Servers - required for different operations such as backup storage
VPS - to serve specific custom services
Third party services: DNS, DDoS, Mail, etc.
Raising funds - project meetings, acquiring software licenses, hardware, books, other IT related, etc.
I mean examples of projects. Which FOSS projects have you already helped?
Well, for several reasons we can’t disclose this, but I can show you just an example as it was public:
What we stated there is that we are going to continue supporting qBitorrent despite that ad ban. From a financial perspective, there is no gain for us. That’s just a single example. Therefore you should think again if we act as a parasite or not.
This answer makes me even more suspicious…
- you keep things hidden… (the “O” in "FOSS " is for “Open”, remember?)
- your answer is totally misleading… You are just mentioning a problem you had with your qBittorrent download page. This doesn’t explain what kind of “help” you brought to qBittorrent (which can be downloaded on SourceForge, so doesn’t really depend on you).
Ce que l’on conçoit bien s’énonce clairement,
Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément.
You can keep being suspicious, and you can even hate FossHub, that is a normal feeling.
- No, that’s another discussion. We explained that on our “About Us” section. Read the “Controversy” and “Not Satisfied” points.
- The answer was the best I could find except that you are unable to understand what this means for an open source project. You are also ignorant because if you would’ve looked better, you would notice that almost all projects that use FossHub also use other services/sites/mirrors. We never tried to impose anyone to use only FossHub, unlike other services that use such a non-disclosure contract and require exclusivity.
The whole point of the post is that you started accusing FossHub of being a parasite site which is so untrue.
The usual tacit these days when one can’t defend their position, is to call the other side ignorant. Maybe you can find someone at fosshub that can explain it better.
Based on your comments here, I will be avoiding fosshub in the future.
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The usual tacit these days when one can’t defend their position is to call the other side misleading because you didn’t like his answer.
Before you came in the discussion I pointed out that the projects you carry don’t really need you as a download site since they already have one. So, so far, I don’t see any project using FossHub. I see projects that have downloads available on FossHub, but nothing tells me they asked for it (and I would be surprised if Gimp or RawTherapee had done so).
So, back to square one, what is the point?
Multiple questions asked.
“projects you carry don’t really need you as a download site since they already have one.”
- I just explained to you why some projects use FossHub although they have other download options available.
“So, so far, I don’t see any project using FossHub”
- What would you like to see? Large green “Download from FossHub” buttons? Banners with FossHub on each project page that use us? We never ever asked people to use our name, logo or do any marketing hype.
“I see projects that have downloads available on FossHub, but nothing tells me they asked for it (and I would be surprised if Gimp or RawTherapee had done so).”
- Again, you are pushing me into a different discussion.
Free (open source) programs such as GIMP use the GNU General Public License (The GNU General Public License v3.0 - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation) is there anything I need to add here? Good, now regarding your question
we added GIMP and RawTherapee upon users request. To make this even more transparent here are the ways we add software titles:
A. User request
B. Publisher request/suggestion
C. We add them
Before we publish them, the software titles must be clean: without software bundles or any other spyware/adware/malware.
Despite the GNU license, whenever we can, we ask permission from the authors (I know this sounds stupid) but if we don’t receive any reply we might proceed and list them if we are allowed to do so (again, depending on the license). Usually, a good indicator is if the software is listed on almost any other download site we are good to go.
However, if the authors of certain free software do not allow us to publish their work, we will remove their software immediately, regardless of their license type. We think it is fair to respect such a decision from their side.
If you have a problem with this, you can ask the publishers to send us a removal request, and we will honor it in less than 24 hours.
“So, back to square one, what is the point?”
- The point is that we are an alternative for the reasons I mentioned numerous times before in this post. Furthermore, your question is hard to answer because you are looking at us from a visitor perspective. If you would’ve been using our platform (as a developer), you could’ve drawn your own conclusion: good or bad.
I hope this answers your question, despite your accusations, it was posted by the qBittorrent project:
“I am writing this in frustration and protest because these guys, have offered us a lot of help behind the scenes and they were very quick to implement various features for us(e.g., inline GPG signs, update URL, etc). For those who don’t remember, we chose them after the SourceForge fiasco with forced adware in the installers. FossHub runs a pretty clean and fast site. They are a hub of good software there. And they do their best not to have intrusive/obstructive ads, ads which help pay for their bandwidth. Nevertheless, FossHub still supports qBittorrent.”
A detour from our rather negative conversation.
1. The blur while “cool” isn’t flattering. I would rather see a large icon.
2. When I scroll or change tabs, the icons sometimes disappear leaving a white box.
3. When I hover over the gradient, white box or icon, it sometimes flickers.
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Thank you for pointing this. It is a long story, but the point is that the new FossHub is coming up soon. This will be fixed.
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Good. Funny it took a day to know.