Gimp much slower on Windows

Hi,

I myself am using Kubuntu 20.04 with Gimp 2.10.x. I have a Tuxedo Notebook with 16GB RAM an an Nvidia GPU with 6GB of RAM.
When I open two TIFs with 230MB filesize and use them as two layers, Gimp works totally fine.

My wife has a Tuxedo Desktop PC, but works with Windows 10, and also Gimp 2.10.x. She has an Nvidia Card with 4GB RAM, and 32GB of system RAM.

Whenever she opens a big TIF-File (by big i mean 250MB) in Gimp, Gimp is painfully slow, brushing is hardly possible. Even just opening the TIF (showing the picture), Gimp needs a long time, as if it would need to paint line-by-line…

So… with nearly similar conditions (apart from the operating system):

Is Gimp on Windows perhaps very very bad with dealing with TIF-Files?

Thanks for your help

Kind regards

That is my experience with it as well. I would use Krita, and utilize gmic. It has non-destructive features including mesh-warping, but a lot of NDE is costly.

Here with W10 , 16GB memory, opening two 512MB 32bits float uncompressed tif files in two layers takes about 3 seconds each with GIMP2.10.18. the same tiff compressed to 372MB takes about 1s more.
No issue with brushes.

Hello @pragomer

From what I have read all Gimp developers work exclusively on Linux
The “GIMP team” is painfully understaffed right now and, IMHO, it is a BIG achievement that they even are able to release a Windows version :slight_smile:

Back to topic, I have just tried to load and paint some very big tiff from here:
https://www.naturalearthdata.com/downloads/10m-raster-data/10m-cross-blend-hypso/
In particular, I have chosen the TIFF: " Cross Blended Hypso with Shaded Relief and Water", which is around 378.42 Mb as compressed ZIP file to downlaod.
I have tested this TIFF on my 5 years old ASUS notebook with:

  • Windows 10 - GIMP 2.10.22
  • Cpu Intel I7 6500U
  • 8 gb RAM

This Tiff (683 mb, once unzipped) loads in around 10-15 seconds.
It is pretty fast to zoom in-out and to pan around this huge TIFF image
I have also tried to paint on this tiff image, with 2 layers of the same Tiff on the GUI, and it is pretty fast.
Here is the mandatory screenshot:

Hello @pragomer

Just tried to apply a Blur filter on this huge TIFF of mine (nearly 700 mb).
As soon as I have moved the sliders in the filter my whole Windows 10 system freezed to death. Not even the Task manager (ctr+alt+delete) worked and, in the very end, I was forced to shut down the entire system.
To recap, GIMP 2.10.22 is indeed prone to problems with huge TIFF images on Windows :slight_smile:

with your image, W10, GIMP2.10.22

  • 5 s to load
  • no problem with different sort of brushes
  • trying to apply focus blur : memory use increases until 13GB! then after there is an intense disk access . I didn’t waited until end.
    It’s surely due to memory management on windows, but it is not surprising with the lack of windows dev.

Hello @gaaned92

Thanks for testing :slight_smile:

It’s surely due to memory management on windows, but it is not surprising with the lack of windows dev.

I am not 100% sure it is only a Windows problem.
I have often read that the blur filter, in particular, in GIMP is poorly optimized.
See this “similar” bug, for instance:

If you take a look at the GIMP Issue tracker there are around 2576 open tickets:

What it is a bit depressing, even though it is nobody’s fault, is that these past months there has been only a single steady developer (Jehan):

On the GEGL side it is even worse…

Looking on the bright side, there are plenty of different developers on Darktable, right now, making daily commits on github :slight_smile:

Hi…

the issue is compeletly solved. I downgraded from 2.10.22/20, thank to your posts my friends, to 2.10.18 and now Gimp runs fast as hell also on Windows.

So, it was a versioning thing.

Thank you all so much !

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