__ GIMP v3.0 __

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So,

After a LOT of blustering earlier in the year about the imminent arrival of v3.0, there had been a complete vacuum of information about the subject.

I’m taking the lack of information to be a sign that all is not well in Mudville.

Does anyone here have any info that they would be willing to share?

I mean we’ve been waiting for v3.0 for what, 10 years? And then after all this time to seemingly have the right pulled out from under us?

Please throw a dog a bone guys…

Sorry for the stupid title, but website rules of 15 characters

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How could there be a rug pull when all the development is done in the open?

https://developer.gimp.org/core/roadmap/#gimp-30-development-branch-roadmap

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I can’t use GMIC for 2.99.19.1 RC3.0.

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Since GMIC is a plugin, this isn’t that surprising. I’m sure once 3.0 is finalized that it’ll work.

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Only 5% of things sorted out till 3.0.

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Hello everyone,

GIMP 3.0, as soon as it is released, will be able to work with G’MIC.
https://x.com/gmic_eu/status/1830672897242787989

GIMP 3.0 is now on string feature freeze in preparation for the “upcoming” release.
If you take a look at its commits, at present, it is indeed mostly only bug-fixing work:

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it is of course all your fault because you are not helping with finishing it.

Just saying.

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Considering the list of things left to do in

I’m sure @doobs will have his stable 3.0 release by at least 2034. :wink: I note that Wayland color management is the list.

If you really want features now @doobs, you could try this.

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GIMP is in string freeze for 3.0, so it’s almost done.

What will everyone complain about after it comes out? I’m sure y’all will find something.

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Actually, it was not a complaint. I’m not in a hurry. Those in a hurry could use GIMP 3 in it’s current, unfinished, form.

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The roadmap gives the impression that there’s more working remaining than there actually is. :slight_smile:

For instance, Redesign API is almost done - we have merge requests to solve the last two items on it. Likewise with the color space invasion and improved Wayland support.

A better indicator to track is the 3.0 RC1 milestones, which are currently around 95% done with 15 issues remaining. We had some unexpected delays earlier due to developers getting sick and the like, but things have really picked up in the last month or so.

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Dunno what almost means…

I’m 67 years old. I’m hoping to see v3.0 whilst I’m amongst the living.

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The point is that you can find out for yourself. Or you can ask in a way that isn’t obnoxiously entitled.

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Well,

Based upon this answer, almost means absolutely nothing. Could be a day, could be a decade. All it really means is go away, don’t bother me.

I’m pretty much done with you and your holier than thou attitude.

Cheers mate…

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Thanks for reporting! Happy to see that you’re getting closer.

You actually shouldn’t bother people devoting their spare time to giving you something for free. This is not Photoshop. You haven’t payed. They develop, but they do it on their terms. Be nice. Stay constructive.

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While waiting you could watch the following video

It might help you understand why your attitude is maybe inappropriate.

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What does it need to change in GTK4/5 to have faster and easier development of GIMP 4?

Because API was quite old and my outsider impression it has a lot of heavy lift.

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What does it need to change in GTK4/5 to have faster and easier development of GIMP 4?

Quite simply, much more full-time developers working on it :slight_smile:

Joking aside, moving from GTK3 to GTK4 is not that simple and requires quite a lot of work. For instance, to make it working on many platforms (Windows, Mac) and not only Linux (which is where GTK4 is mostly tested).

At present, to my knowldege (on top of GIMP), there are no big important open source (e.g. darkable, RawTherapee, LibreOffice) softwares based on GTK (as GUIs) which run GKTK4, as their toolkit.
From what I have read, Inkscape hired a full-time developer to port the software from GTK3 to GTK4. Currently, this work has been mostly done but there are many regressions (especially on Windows and Mac) which will require quite more efforts.
Perhaps, who knows, Inkscape 1.5 will run on GTK4.

It suffices to take a look at what needs to be done for darktable to understand the magnitude of this very daunting task:

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Jehan did a lot of work to set up the fiscal sponsorship agreement with GNOME mentioned in their announcement. One aspect of that is to convert the Bitcoin donations into a more “usable” currency to better sponsor developers working on GIMP. I don’t know the status beyond the Bitcoin information being forwarded on, but I believe the plan is to build this out further once 3.0 is released.

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GIMP needs more art studios who use only GIMP in production. Krita started to flourish that way because it got more support.