Good evening,
using RawTherapee 5.9 I have collapsed all tool settings to a minimum and would like to keep them that way:
But when I close RT and open it up again, all tools open up again:
How can I change this behaviour?
This happens, although I had chosen to save the tools settings:
Best wishes
Hermann-Josef
Abends, Hermann-Josef!
Strange â it works as intended up here.
I wonder what differs between your version and mine
(Release-5.9, Manjaro Linux)?
MfG
Claes in Lund, Schweden
Hi, @Jossie
After collapsing the tools, try the following: disable the âAutomatically save toolsâ collapsed/expanded state before exitingâ option, click âSave toolsâ collapsed/expanded state nowâ, and then click âOKâ (to close the Preferences window and commit your changes).
After closing and opening RawTherapee again, you should find that it starts up with all of the tools in their collapsed state.
Thank you for your replies. Unfortunately the recipe from martbetz does not work. The tools are again expanded once I reopen RT.
Hermann-Josef
Moinchen, Hermann-Josef!
Hmmmm.
Are you on a Windows machine,
or a McMachine, or�
MfG
Claes in Lund, Schweden
Guten Morgen Claes,
I am on WIndows11.
Hermann-Josef
Aha!
OK. I believe that I am beginning to understandâŚ
I just tested this on a Win11 partition.
First of all, RT5.9 takes a l-o-n-g time to start on WIn11 
Test this:
a) start RT5.9
b) collapse all tools
c) in Preferences, click button âSave tool collapsed/expanded state nowâ
d) do NOT tick âSave tool collapsed/expanded state of exitâ:
OK?
MfG
Claes in Lund, Schweden
Addendum: Hmmm again â this is the same as what @martbetz suggested above. Wonder why my Win11 behaves nicely, while Hermann-josefâs does not?
I wonder if the changes arenât being written to the âoptionsâ file for some reason? Or maybe they are being written, but are somehow being ignored? Could be due to the required permission level not being set?
Thanks for your suggestions. But whatever I try, even without closing RT but only closing the image opened in the editor, the tools are expanded again if I open a new image in the editor. Very strange.
Hermann-Josef
It has to do with the privileges!
If I run RT as administrator, the tools are all collapsed, although this was my first call to RT5.9 as administrator. So it obviously took the settings I had stored as a standard user without administrative privileges.
Hermann-Josef
Same behaviour here on Debian Sid since I switched from 5.8 to the dev-versions. The above suggested changes as a workaround were written to the options file with no effect.
Greetings from Germany,
Robert
Hi, @robles
Have you tried the final release (i.e. the RawTherapee 5.9 AppImage)?
Devs, by their very nature, are a work in progress; as such, they may not be fully functional.
Hi @martbetz,
yes Iâve tried the 5.9 AppImage, same behaviour. I just mentioned the dev-versions, cause I have this behaviour since the first time I have switched from 5.8 to a higher version. 5.9 just arrived in Debian Sid today with the same behaviour.
I found the reason: It happens when the âMultiple Editor Tabs In Own Window Modeâ is selected in the preferences settings. When I switch to âSingle Editor Tab Modeâ it works.
Greetings, Robert
PS: Thanks to all the developers for their work and this fantastic software!
Well spotted, @robles! I wouldnât have thought of that. 
Thanks for sharing the info; posting it here will certainly help others who may encounter a similar issue. 
Thanks @robles !
For me the dual monitor is more important than the collapsed tools. But I would assume that this issue will be fixed. Thanks to all who are working on RT!
Hermann-Josef
I only use a single-monitor setup, myself, so Iâve never needed to change this setting from default; as such, Iâve no idea if the persistence of such preferences are disabled intentionally when doing so. Having said this, Iâm sure that the details would be documented in RawPedia if this was the case.
If itâs definitely a bug, it would certainly be worth filing a bug report (if one doesnât already exist) so that the issue can can be investigated and hopefully fixed.
https://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/How_to_write_useful_bug_reports
