Landing doves - help needed

Nice material

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I agree. I had to study it carefully to be sure it wasn’t. IMO that’s the strength of the image. I prefer @sotsoguk’s attempt so far . Here’s my take in darktable 3.1.

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darktable 3.0.2

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Made improvements today. I must get used to using two instances of color balance. Perspective aligned horizontally is much better.


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Interesting :). But i think the three birds looking like a composition of one bird landing is the only interesting part of the image.

Nice dreamy look, thanx

That’s what i had in mind. Very good imho.

Just the focus on the birds, like it.

I think the birds are not that important in your picture. But man, the overall look is fanstastic, i have to take a look at your xmp file for similar pictures.

That’s my new version. Thanks a lot for all your input! I will definitely have to improve my DT skills (especially color and denoising).

In Darktable i still don’t easily get the color “look” i want. In Lightroom it was for me much easier. Do you use any styles / LUTS ?

Is there any good tutorial for Denoising in DT? I just booted my manjaro drive and luckily DT there is much snappier, so playing with different parameters is much less time consuming :wink:

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Tried to emphasize the birds even more. Kinda like a more dark tone.

Would someone tell me what steps to take in GIMP to export in a size suitable for posting?

Never mind, I exported a 12x9 image with print size 4x3, and it came out much darker than what I see in GIMP, but then I went back and exported a full size image, and it did the same thing. Problem lies elsewhere (maybe behind the keyboard).

I think the doves are the cool part of the picture, I personally prefer filling the frame with them


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Thanks, my crop is not as tight as others, allowing the scene to breathe. If you check the crop tool in xmp, and turn on golden mean guidelines, you will see how it all aligns nicely.

I’ve never used styles or LUTs in darktable, but they certainly have their uses.

Here is a link to the recent Bruce Williams video I watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwmDqDabrU
The top comment by @rawfiner is also extremely helpful and clarifies a few things not covered in the video.
Search youtube for denoise darktable and you will find many other results.

If you just want to remove chroma noise, I like denoise (non local means) and turn luma down to 0.

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Inspired by “Winging It” series of Alan Schaller.

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@Underexposed I looked up “Winging It” and thought it should get a link posted!

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Good idea.

Thanks. What a fantastic forum here :blush:

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Thanx. That’s one of very few episodes i have missed. I don’t know why …

Not helping. :stuck_out_tongue:

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:grinning:. Interesting. I don’t really like the foggy / dust overlay thing. But this rock like look underneath is cool. Thanx.

I like b/w in general but I don’t seem to get it right. Especially in DT all my grayscale Images end up dull and boring. Maybe something to learn for the next lockdown …

Thanks. I am glad you appreciated it, and not, at the same time. The kind of response I wanted. :smile_cat: Call it computational and creative post processing.

The crop is from my algorithm for choosing an interesting focus and the effect is from playing with the fast Fourier transform. I like how the edge of the chimney is still showing, hinting that something is there but not showing it. The crisscross is due to the dominant lines; particularly the roof. The fog and crisscross evokes the terrible weather that non-humans encounter regularly, while us humans (not the marginalized) get to shelter under a roof.

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