excuse me please if my question will look like a rant:
I am trying to use a GIMP from flatpak (current version is 2.99.18 from flathub-beta)
GNU Image Manipulation Program org.gimp.GIMP 2.99.18 beta flathub-beta user
HEIC org.gimp.GIMP.HEIC beta flathub-beta user
G'MIC org.gimp.GIMP.Plugin.GMic 3.3.3 3 flathub-beta user
it installs, it starts … but if you try to use that seriously it has so many issues …
My question is - is 2.99.18 from flatpak-beta supposed for to be used seriously (ofc with possible issues since it is devel version) or is it intended for a community for testing and development and in general unfit for work ?
I don’t want to bother you with huge list of issues I’ve ran into …
I am asking because perhaps my flatpak is broken or something … I just cannot believe that GIMP is really in “THAT” shape … On the surface it looks fine - you can make some youtube review videos about that, about new features and it will look fine - but if you will dive under the surface you will find a lot of problems …
thanks for your input …
cheers, ~dan
ps. please don’t take it THAT seriously … I love GIMP and opensource and I am with that for 20 years …
you should be sure that the problems you encounter are gimp 3 specific and not a flatpak issue before ranting.
yes many plugins need to be updated to work again with gimp 3. this is known for like years now. it is up to the plugin authors how serious they take preparing for the release.
if you try to use that seriously it has so many issues
I don’t want to bother you with huge list of issues I’ve ran into
I just cannot believe that GIMP is really in “THAT” shape
if you will dive under the surface you will find a lot of problems …
I’m not a flatpak specialist but started recently to contribute in the beta flatpak. I would like to know the “many issues”, “huge list of issues”, “that shape” and “lot of problems”, because I know some of them but didn’t have time to report yet.
it’s just broken for a regular use … It crashes, there are multiple UI glitches, not everything works … You would have to use it to know it … Perhaps you use it differently … During my photo editing I have some (semi-)fixed workflow that employs GIMP after RAW developing … I do in GIMP all the blending (if required) with masks, contrast adjusting (sharpening, high-pass+overlay, soft light), retouching + local edits (I do it with masks in general) and final image export (jpg, tiff) …
In short - 2.99.xx is not in shape that it can be used seriously for such a workflow …
In was asking in this thread … It was rather kind of high-level talk about that …
I will consider reporting my findings in bugzilla, honestly I am not doing this that much anymore in past years, I’m with Linux and opensource software for 25 years and I also work as a Software Engineer and I am not indeed as active as before because simply my life is different now than it was 10-15 years ago where I was contributing to many projects just for the sake of doing it …
The current version is 3.00RC1. Still some issue but you care welcome to report them (this is the purpose of the release candidates). Given the version change 3.00 from 2.99 a plain flatpak update may not be enough to see the new version. Also expect the Gimp profile to be be under another name.
lovely … I cannot wait for new gimp … those local edits and theirs implementation is really very very good … I think that this is a breaking point which will bring to GIMP significant audience … If there is something what I would additionally change it would be better and nicer color management … Similarly like for instance in RT or DT … based on my life experience, every time I was presenting GIMP to some my colleague who uses a `commercial’ software they were liking that but in the end they didn’t like and it was for them often the stopper the color management tools … At least I am talking about photographers …
On the other hand, I am using GIMP for many years and I’ve already get used on how it works now so I could easily live without local edits or anything … I would love to see some side-project of gimp or fork (similarly like RT Vs ART) with GIMP flavour focused more on photography postprocess …
… Please point me to your OBS repo … I use leap 15.6