[PlayRaw] Dusk feel - and a few "linear" questions

The idea here was to try and capture that end-of-day feel. I wasn’t looking for a punchy or colourful look.

_5D_1584.CR2 (54.9 MB)

I’d like to ask a couple of questions, but first I need to say how I processed this. I’ve recently started using darktable and filmic RGB, and this was used here, with little else in dt. However I wanted a bit more contrast in the sky only, and the only way I know to do this is to go into Gimp and make the sky a second layer. So I exported a 32 bit tiff in linear rec2020, imported into Gimp keeping that profile, and selected the sky using the Free Select Tool, i.e. hand-drawn segments. Feathered, copied to new layer, hand-deleted as much non-sky as reasonably possible, then used Levels to adjust contrast. Found I couldn’t finally convert the profile to sRGB for export without first changing Precision to Perceptual gamma, so did that, converted, and hence a jpeg. I need to learn more tools and processes, and also want to follow the linear path, at least for the time being. So -

Question 1 - For an example like this, altering the sky, can I / should I do it all in dt, or is there merit in using Gimp also?

Question 2 - Whether Gimp is involved or not, which tools do you suggest I familliarise with for an example like this? (I’m aware there are masks but have never used them. I’ve got into the habit of putting feathered selections into new layers in Gimp)

Any other comments or suggestions welcome too.

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Here’s my try in darktable 3.1:

_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (13.6 KB)

For skies I never went for another tool next to darktable. Sometimes I use Gimp for some detailed retouching work darktable is not capable of.

If you’re interested here’s a threat about several practices for sky enhancement in darktable:


I kept the image relative dark to preserve the “end of day” feeling. The sky was changed a little by the tone eqalizer with subsequent use of an RGB tone curve to increase the contrast.

Darktable 3.0 only.

_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (8.4 KB)

Let there be Colour :laughing:
RT only

_5D_1584_RT-1.jpg.out.pp3 (24.6 KB)

Seems Filmulator really doesn’t handle UniWB well.

Time to rework the pipeline…

And here a version with some more “punch” as I would normally do it.

_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (15.4 KB)

a-_5D_1584-1.jpg.out.arp (11.7 KB)

Edit: took five additionnal minutes to lighten the foreground

_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (9.5 KB) _5D_1584_01.CR2.xmp (10.0 KB)

testing with darktable 3.0.0 only
_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (7,9 Ko)

_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (10.0 KB)

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RT 5.7

_5D_1584.jpg.out.pp3 (12,0 KB)

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_5D_1584.CR2.xmp (14.2 KB) (dt 3.1.0)

folks, thanks, good to see your versions, all good.
I particularly like yours @age . And a couple of others are very natural.

@sls141 , you have a bit of a halo on the boundary. (I haven’t looked at the xmp though)

Also thanks for the reference t the Skies post @pphoto . I will have to dig into this.

@gaaned92 , I was wondering what you were getting at re. the extra 5 mins?

Also I’ve started watching youtubes on darktable masking…

Thanks again.

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_5D_1584-art-1.jpg.out.arp (11.0 KB)

I used 2 complementary zone mask in ART

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@srgmro, you have preserved a bit of highlight detail better than the rest of us!

Ok I did not detected that, but it comes probably from the upper mask I used to improve the sky moderately.
Thanks for the remark.

@sls141 , you have a bit of a halo on the boundary”

@RawConvert Yeah. I know. I could have done a better job with my masking there. But, this is Playraw, not an effort to get it ready to send to the printer for wall-hanging purposes. :wink: