Random thoughts and finds...

Sounds fun! It needs a name. Stacked Play? Relay Play? Play Relay?

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I like RelayPlay. Also, I guess the first ā€œeditā€ would be the photo in its base form with stuff like lens corrections, scene-refered preset, etc. applied

Or maybe PlayRelay is easier to say, but there’s a small chance it might get confused

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I am sure they are excellent, but at the end of the day, it is just a piece of metal. Technology to make pans like this has been around for almost 100 years now.

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RelayPlay - (draft of a) Guideline

  • Posting
    • Post a RAW with a basic edit; you can choose any modules to include but the lesser the more room others will have to play. You can choose to include a tonemapper or not. It is up to you!
    • The poster defines which software/version should be used to keep it consistent.
  • Playing along
    • When you decide to engage in a RelayPlay post ā€œediting nowā€ in the thread to let others know they should wait for you to finish
    • Add one item to the history stack. There are no fixed rules but you may consider to add to the current flow of things instead of reversing others edits. If your idea needs more then one line of history stack that is fine.
    • Post a jpeg of the current status and your xmp in the thread for the next person to continue.

Sounds like a good base for the rules. I might make a thread to see if people would be interested :thinking:

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Great vid about invasive species while also taking a dab at AI billionaires :smiley:

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No, it has not be done before to my knowledge. I thought about a challenge chaining PlayRaws but not in this way.

This reminds me of r/place but less chaotic.

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I have created a thread with (hopefully) well defined rules, let’s see how it goes…

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Do you see the face of the train? It almost needs a tongue like this as a cowcatcher: :stuck_out_tongue:

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Can’t unsee now :man_facepalming: :rofl:

Another Jim Lill video to kill some audio myths. I can’t believe all the comparisons between the Neve and the Focusrite, they will surely angry some people that spent thousands on those preamps. Of course the result was the expected one, it’s not about the preamp but the EQ, and once you replicate it in digital it sounds exactly the same :smiley:

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I used to be into guitar effects pedals and DIY mods and building them myself. That’s a realm where there’s so much mysticism about what sounds good and why. I remember a video that I can no longer find of a big Tube Screamer shootout with multiple people involved trying to guess what’s what from the run of the mill modern cheap reproductions to the originals to the expensive and modded boutique versions. Basically everyone got it all wrong and while people could tell that there were differences between them, they couldn’t tell which ones they actually were.

My take has always sorta been that if you’re playing in an environment where those types of details matter, you probably aren’t playing in an actual band where those details get glossed over with a broader mix of other instruments.

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Yeah, I’ve built a few pedals from PCBs and strip board. The differences are all down to the topology of the pedal itself and never magical components or manufacturer. Different topologies will obviously sound different due to clipping types, EQ, gain stages, etc, but beyond that it’s almost all the same and cork sniffing.

I think there’s something inherently cool about analog effects, just a bunch of transistors, diodes, capacitors, etc, can lead to so much variety. Not to speak of tape and analog time effects like bucket brigade, tape, springs etc.

I will continue building them, since it’s so inexpensive(20-30 euro per pedal) and also gives some soldering experience, even if I mostly play digital nowdays. It’s a good feeling when a schematic or layout comes to life.

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They are way ahead of you. It’s you (and the other testers) who cannot hear the difference. They can, especially if they know the price tag of the item, which famously correlates with whatever quality they are after.

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Just to stir things up a bit :smiley: : That reminds me of a visit to a hi-fi store. The salesperson called the inventors of the MP3 format ā€œidiotsā€ and believed that their invention had caused lasting damage to music. Blind tests using MP3 files with at least 256 kbps tell a different story.

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… and Opus is transparent around 128 kbps (VBR).

Yes, it is amazing that some people just cannot accept the fact that these are engineering problems, and with a lot of work from very bright people they have mostly been solved.

The human ear is not a moving target. At some point, audio systems got good enough to satisfy it, and then the direction of R&D was making these solutions cheaper, as there is no longer a point in improving them.

Wine industry is even funnier than hifi.

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They also have all those nice prices they give out to themselves :slight_smile: !

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Once, with a group of friends at a BBQ, who brought some other friends I never met before, the conversation turned to wine. I remarked how great it is that you can now buy good wine in supermarkets from all over the world for a few euros a bottle.

Turned out that one of those people I have never met before was running a boutique premium winery. In retrospect, it is still not clear to me how I escaped the situation alive.

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A personal anecdote:

When I was in college, a small group of I and friends were also friends with the owner of a hi-fi equipment store. We were spending some time in his home, listening to his stereo and especially his expensive speaker system. He was asking what we thought about it, and only I complained of an extraneous sound. No one really believed me, but the owner had a thought, got up, and turned off the backlighting of the speaker system. The noise went away. He explained that what I had been hearing was the ā€œringingā€ of the filament in the incandescent light bulb. No one else had heard it, including the owner.

So, I am sure that some people have hearing that can discern nuances better than most people. (That was more than 50 years ago, and my hearing acuity is no longer anywhere near that good.)

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