Tough for sure. Enhanced and re-texturized some of the over blurred feathers (after noise reduction) with a cotton texture.
Might have pused the red a bit too hard as well. lol
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2024-08-30_11-02-04.89_DSC0728_1.jpg.out.pp3 (30.8 KB)
This is my newest attempt in RawTherapee 5.11.
I think it looks pretty natural with plenty of details in feathers and controlled noised in the background. I personally don’t like Adobe one posted above since in my opinion is just too unnatural plasticky painty looking.
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We have as well "Full image " which is parametric mask based on Luminosity.
Matthew how bright is your monitor?? I’m just asking as at least for me your content presented in various posts always seems very dark with crushed blacks.
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MacBook Air 2020 13’’ M1 8GB 256GB ( using above always above 50%).
Few recent images screenshots with clipping indicators. I will try to lower blacks a bit. Thanks for info but I don’t really that big of an issue.
2024-08-30_11-02-04.89_DSC0728_1.jpg.out.pp3 (30.8 KB)
This is my newest attempt in RawTherapee 5.11.
I think it looks pretty natural with plenty of details in feathers and controlled noised in the background. I personally don’t like Adobe one posted above since in my opinion is just too unnatural plasticky painty looking.
*Increased blacks and EV a bit but darkness here is artistic choice to hide the noise.
- Increased Shadows too now
I think what others are trying to communicate is that your monitor is setup to present you an image too bright. Your edits are impacted by that brightness, thus the image you export looks too dark in calibrated monitors. This last image looks too dark to me. The feathers around the eye seem to be pure black. My monitor is calibrated at 120cdm2.
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Thanks for posting it out.
I’m using MacBook Air M1so no idea what would be wrong here and I checked on my Huawei 10-bit tablet and all looks okay.
I increased shadows again on and replaced image above.
I will try mess with things and see.
@g-man explained much better why I was asking… If you are setup on a very bright display and you edit to make that look nice when you export it will be quite dark for others and if you are setup for 10 bit editing and then export out that could also impact things…
As a side note you need to downscale your jpg submission as well…yours is 17.5mb…usually downscaling to HD is sufficient and will keep the file sizes down to around 1mb… people can get high quality from using your sidecar file…
PS I am not suggesting you change anything to your workflow wrt your displays I was just making an observation and checking in with you so just take it for what its worth and not as any sort of criticism as none was implied on my part… you could check your images on a run of the mill computer elsewhere and make your own assessment as to how it looks there vs what you see on your own hardware
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Having a monitor calibration device helps make this an objective test vs subjective. The main aspect to get right is the white and black point and not so much the colors (in my opinion). While you get one, you can use this website.
Check the black level first: Black level - Lagom LCD test
and then the white: White saturation - Lagom LCD test
If you have time, read that entire website.
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I think @Popanz mentioned this one some time ago (I use it):
https://www.simpelfilter.de/en/colorman/blackpoint.html
https://www.simpelfilter.de/en/colorman/whitepoint.html
Oops - learned something: noise reduction looks very differently in when not using 100% zoom. This version is what I tried to achieve:
2024-08-30_11-02-04.89_DSC0728.nef.xmp (14.8 KB)
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Hello,
This is a very interesting post, for the moment I’m hesitating to buy a DXO Pur Raw license. For this type of shooting the results are exeptional for optical and numeric noise processing.
For the moment, I don’t have much time but I’m going to analyze the xmp files,
Here’s my proposal with DXO Pur raw 4 and Dartable 4.9 (master).
Crop 100%
2024-08-30_11-02-04.89_DSC0728-nef_DxO_DeepPRIMEXD.dng.xmp (17.1 KB)
DNG DXO
All the best,
Christian
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Thank you everyone for pointing out black levels and colors. I was using sRGB profile not Color LCD which is most correct on the Mac.
I tried improving NR in this image with Wavelet Levels and Median filter.
2024-08-30_11-02-04.89_DSC0728_1_1-2.jpg.out.pp3 (30.9 KB)
It has the same problem. It is too dark in my display.
I see highlight banding on the branch…I wonder if this is an HDR to SDR tonemapping thing…I think the Mac is likely 10bit/HDR display so I wonder if the JPG export from RT from that display setup might be contributing …maybe its just that the screen is still too bright?? @Andy_Astbury1 would likely know if there are any nuances to exporting from bright/HDR mac’s to standard JPG for sharing…newer formats have gainmapping to handle this but I am not sure if that is supported in RT exports at the moment…
The user can see what he posted on the website regardless of the settings, mapping, etc in RT or dt. The image posted looks too dark to me. Most likely the monitor is too bright if it looks good to the user in their web browser.
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