Sample IT8 Reference file for darktable-chart utility, please?

Would anyone have a sample IT8 reference file for loading under darktable-chart > reference value tab?
I have tried many formats to no avail, and can’t find any relevant discussion here or on the web.
This is the content of my ColorChecker.txt file I try to load :

LGOROWLENGTH 12
ORIGINATOR “ColorChecker24”
MANUFACTURER “X-Rite - http://www.xrite.com
1/12/2021 # Time: 14:33
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 5
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID SAMPLE_NAME LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 24
BEGIN_DATA
1 A1 37.7976 14.9189 14.6098
2 A2 62.0301 34.0401 58.7391
3 A3 27.9205 17.0872 -48.6711
4 A4 94.0586 -1.0418 2.8835
5 B1 65.7762 16.4541 17.9442
6 B2 39.6608 8.6631 -43.1892
7 B3 53.4247 -39.6051 30.6583
8 B4 79.4438 -0.6685 0.8970
9 C1 49.7737 -3.9058 -22.8392
10 C2 51.6068 46.4659 16.6463
11 C3 42.0179 56.2369 28.2988
12 C4 64.5995 0.1260 0.2165
13 D1 42.3360 -14.2769 20.0762
14 D2 30.2330 21.9605 -20.0066
15 D3 81.3347 3.9422 76.8753
16 D4 50.5762 -0.9491 0.0959
17 E1 55.3149 8.0885 -24.4423
18 E2 71.3812 -23.8552 57.4252
19 E3 51.3893 50.5470 -12.8133
20 E4 35.2206 -0.8911 -0.4628
21 F1 70.2999 -32.9363 0.1569
22 F2 71.4357 19.0178 66.6829
23 F3 48.6209 -27.7380 -27.5854
24 F4 21.4371 0.1309 -0.9290
END_DATA

You can download any or all of the reference files for Wolf Faust’s IT8 charts here:

http://www.targets.coloraid.de/

Scroll down about half-way…

Thanks. Here’s the header and the first two row of data of one such Wolf Faust reference file :

IT8.7/1
ORIGINATOR “Wolf Faust”
DESCRIPTOR “Fujichrome Provia/Astia Type 3, L* a* b* (light D50, viewing angle 2)”
MANUFACTURER “Wolf Faust - http://www.coloraid.de
CREATED “February 22, 2002”
PROD_DATE “2002:02”
SERIAL “F020430 Batch Average Data”
MATERIAL “For Fujichrome Provia and Astia Films”
KEYWORD “MEAN_DE” # Mean Delta E of samples compared to batch average
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 17
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID XYZ_X XYZ_Y XYZ_Z LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B LAB_C LAB_H STDEV_X STDEV_Y STDEV_Z STDEV_L STDEV_A STDEV_B MEAN_DE STDEV_DE
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 288
BEGIN_DATA
A1 2.10 1.82 1.25 14.49 8.10 3.06 8.66 20.70 0.06 0.05 0.03 0.26 0.23 0.31 0.41 0.46
A2 2.87 1.98 1.10 15.40 19.63 6.68 20.74 18.78 0.07 0.05 0.03 0.25 0.18 0.15 0.30 0.34

I guess that’s a starting point.
Have you used darktable-chart with Wolf Faust IT8 “288 patches” targets yourself?
Since my chart is “ColorChecker” – and not a ‘photographic target’, looks like I’m going to have to change the first line of the file NOT to read “IT8.7/x”?
But what do I put in instead? I can modify the patch identifiers to follow Wolf’s format, add in XYZ but does darktable-chart needs the Statistics part? To your knowledge.

I’ve used IT8 targets with Argyll scanin/colprof tools to make ICC camera profiles, but I’ve not used the darktable facility. My target was a Wolf Faust target; the Rxxxxxx.txt file worked with Argyll scanin just fine out-of-the-box. Wait to see if a darktable dev or user responds…

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Do you have a cc24?? or do you have a 288 patch card?? If 24 I have them and will post when I get home…also I think you need to shoot it in landscape with the white patch lower left…I will have to confirm but I don’t think DTchart handles rotations so the orientation has to match your cht file…

I have a CC24. Any Wolf Faust IT8 goes through perfectly.
I tried to edit my reference file accordingly but darktable-chart is very picky, it refuses my file :

IT8.7/1
ORIGINATOR “BabelColor PatchTool, version 6.6.5 b466”
DESCRIPTOR “ColorChecker”
MANUFACTURER “X-Rite”
CREATED “February 22, 2002”
PROD_DATE “2002:02”
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 7
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID XYZ_X XYZ_Y XYZ_Z LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 7
BEGIN_DATA
A1 11.596771 9.975042 4.922680 37.7976 14.9189 14.6098
A2 39.192752 30.437748 4.491946 62.0301 34.0401 58.7391
A3 6.782688 5.427850 19.857456 27.9205 17.0872 -48.6711
A4 81.812236 85.407888 67.319509 94.0586 -1.0418 2.8835
B1 38.737700 35.035378 19.219417 65.7762 16.4541 17.9442
B2 11.848817 11.047763 27.797774 39.6608 8.6631 -43.1892
B3 13.501621 21.437200 7.282003 53.4247 -39.6051 30.6583
B4 53.448437 55.701796 45.221099 79.4438 -0.6685 0.8970
C1 16.861386 18.229840 26.087808 49.7737 -3.9058 -22.8392
C2 29.753700 19.796899 10.290190 51.6068 46.4659 16.6463
C3 22.170497 12.511577 3.807529 42.0179 56.2369 28.2988
C4 32.380249 33.544635 27.554020 64.5995 0.1260 0.2165
D1 10.291092 12.718502 5.381970 42.3360 -14.2769 20.0762
D2 8.353521 6.331145 10.228989 30.2330 21.9605 -20.0066
D3 58.586690 59.078453 7.759134 81.3347 3.9422 76.8753
D4 18.048930 18.905277 15.562787 50.5762 -0.9491 0.0959
E1 24.220964 23.236294 33.035976 55.3149 8.0885 -24.4423
E2 33.870040 42.744481 8.359858 71.3812 -23.8552 57.4252
E3 30.591940 19.606446 22.145735 51.3893 50.5470 -12.8133
E4 8.201162 8.609145 7.217110 35.2206 -0.8911 -0.4628
F1 30.064268 41.177209 33.874712 70.2999 -32.9363 0.1569
F2 47.864925 42.824510 6.129150 71.4357 19.0178 66.6829
F3 12.169119 17.288011 27.704779 48.6209 -27.7380 -27.5854
F4 3.249180 3.361496 2.895638 21.4371 0.1309 -0.9290
END_DATA

I give up. I tried editing the file all I could to no avail.
I read somewhere to run the application from the command line to recover any error, to no avail again.
The following line returns nothing:

darktable-chart.exe dsc_1545.pfm colorchecker.cht cc24.txt

I’m beginning to suspect the application is hard-coded for IT8.7/1-2 and will not accept ColorChecker charts or any other charts, for that matter.

I’m not a darktable user, so I did some digging. First, do you have this resource:

https://pixls.us/articles/profiling-a-camera-with-darktable-chart/

This treatise would indicate that colorchecker targets are valid.

Next, this article has a link to a .cie file to use with 24-patch ColorCheckers:

https://pixls.us/articles/profiling-a-camera-with-darktable-chart/ColorCheckerPassport.cie

You might try using this one instead of the xrite file.

Hope this helps…

i’m really not sure a cc24 would have enough information to drive the spline lut. anyways, it works for me ™:

i was loading this chart file: /usr/share/color/argyll/ref/ColorChecker.cht

I got the cht, it’s the reference file aka “cie” that I don’t have?
At least, none of the format I try are accepted?

That ColorCheckerPassport.cie is still “ignored” or “fails”, somehow, by darktable-chart :frowning:

ColorCheckerPassport.zip (4.9 KB)

You can also use your JPG if you want it to create a style to match that…in that case instead of the cie file you use your jpg pfm…

So quick workflow…shoot raw and jpg. Set output profile to lab. Export as pfm files.

Case 1
Use Raw pfm and CC24 CHT and CIE files…for corrections to colorchart
Case 2 Do the same but use your JPG pfm instead of your cie file…

THe attached should work for you …

Todd,

Working with jpg54 at darktable.fr, it came down to the “order” : all along, I was using X-Rite’s “traditionnal” Columns by Columns order while darktable-chart, in the “spirit” of argyll *.cht format, expected Rows by Rows order. Go figure! Once I changed the patch order, the sun started to shine again! Thanks so much for you kind help. FWIW, this is the correct data file :

IT8.7/2
ORIGINATOR “Roger Breton”
DESCRIPTOR “ColorChecker”
CREATED “Feb 24, 2021”
MANUFACTURER “X-RITE”

NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 4
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B
END_DATA_FORMAT

NUMBER_OF_SETS 24
BEGIN_DATA
A1 37.79 14.91 14.60
A2 65.77 16.45 17.94
A3 49.77 -3.90 -22.83
A4 42.33 -14.27 20.07
A5 55.31 8.08 -24.44
A6 70.29 -32.93 0.15
B1 62.03 34.04 58.73
B2 39.66 8.66 -43.18
B3 51.60 46.46 16.64
B4 30.23 21.96 -20.00
B5 71.38 -23.85 57.42
B6 71.43 19.01 66.68
C1 27.92 17.08 -48.67
C2 53.42 -39.60 30.65
C3 42.01 56.23 28.29
C4 81.33 3.94 76.87
C5 51.38 50.54 -12.81
C6 48.62 -27.73 -27.58
D1 94.05 -1.04 2.88
D2 79.44 -0.66 0.89
D3 64.59 0.12 0.21
D4 50.57 -0.94 0.09
D5 35.22 -0.89 -0.46
D6 21.43 0.13 -0.92
END_DATA