White balance on version 5.9 and 5.10 on startup.

Software RawTherapee
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Instead of those lab adjustments did you try the various models for the RT tone curves… it could be that one of those was or is pushing your colors where you don’t want them. I have not watched the video yet but I think basically looking at your color profile options should help…so within RT trying those options or doing your own tone curve or trying the dcp files on your raw… If you introduce those topaz dng which have in the past caused issues for some versions of both DT and RT then you might still have a further issue

I think the first step would be to try the profiles from adobe… and be sure to turn off the curve applied in RT and use the adobe tone curve… At least try this as your base…

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Everything is still turned off. No curve adjustment on the Raw or DNG file.

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The link How to dowload… (How to get LCP and DCP profiles - RawPedia) first step is not working. I will try to find another way.

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You mean the profile improves the yellows in your ARW/RAF files? Since you have changed the display profile, that tells me you do not (or did not) have proper color management in RawTherapee. I recommend reviewing your color management settings in all your photo software to ensure they are displaying the correct colors. Unless you have system-wide color correction for your display, the monitor profile should be set to the one for your display. Rarely will this be sRGB.

It seems Adobe changed the link. You can search for the download page for Adobe DNG Converter. I found this page on Adobe’s website: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html

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I am not too sure what append. But I did load the Adobe DNG Converter on the 3 computers. In the Color / Color Toning / Input Profile, I seem to not obtain a better result then with Camera standard active. When I go in Custom, all the choices of colors seems worst. It was not this way I believe before the loading. Yet in the list of custom choices nothing seems to have changed.

As for the monitor, you seem to also be right. The image looks more natural when I choose the default one.

I am still making these observations off the Linux one for now and on one .dng file from DxO, but so far they seem to work the same on Windows.

Anyway things seems much better now. Thanks a lot folks!

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I’m not sure I totally follow…

You should be setting your display profile which you find at the bottom of the RT window to either a calibrated ICC which it does not sound like you have or the one provided by the manufacturer of your monitor to be sure to get the right black point correction…

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Using the Adobe profile for input for example you would then see something like this

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This would be using all the options of the DCP file and ProPhoto for your working space ie a nice wide gamut and exporting with the srgb profile shown at least by default…

If you use the tone curve in the DCP file you would turn off the tone curve in the exposure settings…

Curve 1 would be linear or a custom tweak but not the automatched one.

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You could turn off the DCP tone curve and use RT’s matching TC but then you would have to decide on what fitting model gives you the best colors from these options…

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Or if you didn’t like the Adobe colors you could use the RT curve and the RT profile.

One other combination might be to use the Adobe color but not the tone curve and add your own custom tone curve…

I know a couple of times you mentioned that you had nothing activated but the initial pp3 that you provided did load with the automatched tone curve using the filmic variant so it was not fully neutral on tone and color… I guess I should go back and check…

The bottom line is as @Lawrence37 mentioned you need to be sure that you are using correct and consistent profiles in all the software that you use or you are simply chasing your tail with adjustments…

Edit…look at your video…at min 1:19…you have the automatch tone curve enabled…as it is by default unless you load using the neutral profile…This will alter tone and color in your image but still the DNG I don’t think coming from DXO is offering the right white balance or some other tag as would be normally handled with a regular DNG …

Later you show the first instance of the flower and then you do a sort of reset by selecting the neutral profile but when you jump to the second one you have the auto tone curve on…you need to go into the exposure and experiment with the models. They impact the color dramatically…its this or as I mention above turn it all off and go full Adobe…

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You can see here that by default unless changed RT will open with iso matched automatched profile and using the filmic variant… Notice then I cycle through the options… You can see the yellows change. Finally I go to neutral…now this is with everything “off” dark and dull as expect as there is no tone curve…from that you can go to Color management and try the Adobe version…There is some mouse movement selecting the canon profile but the video doesn’t show the dialog boxes …in any case this is what I am talking about how you can have different results for your colors esp gamut sensitive ones like yellow with these options… And this still doesn’t change the need above to get your color management in order…