Glad you did not change my workflow… 
I’ve done that myself…
In other words : ‘you were reacting to another sub-thread’.
I think you’ve nailed it, another small lesson learned.
Thanks for helping!
That raises more questions but will first read the manual…
Love dt!
Dave can compile dt on his own following the compile instructions…
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Given the respect he shows to unpaid volunteers, that might be the best solution.
Also, he could have done that 36 h ago, when the tarball became available, giving him dt 35h earlier
and I forgot that he can also just use the app image.
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Thanks to rvietor, this was what I needed. Now it seems all to work fine. But I am wondering which kind of GMIC it was to be found. Because I never installed it manually. May be it has to do with a flatpak installation of GIMP…?
No need for sarcasm. I’m not complaining the OBS is not yet available. I am complaining that the install page says it is available when it is not, and there is not information indicating whether I will be waiting 24 hours or 6 months. That is a very different complaint.
And really, telling someone to compile their own from source when there is a page on the official site telling being to install from OBS is missing the point.
i currently have no darktable at all, not even a previous version and 30,000 photos, and zero information about when the official release repo will have the product.
Show some empathy.
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Iirc, GIMP can use GMIC, so would pull in the library (if you install it from a repository). It would not pull in the development package as a rule, as few users would need that.
And yes, if you switched to a flatpak install of GIMP, that could mean there’s no longer an accessible version of GMIC on your system.
I haven’t followed the whole discussion, but can’t you just reinstall the last version?
I do empathise but surely a simple rollback will get you up and running again?
Show some patience… or (as @g-man mentioned) use the appimage.
I told you less than a day ago why the latest version wasn’t shown yet, and to
A bit later, @g-man told you
And to have some patience while that was worked on.
Once again, all that work is done by volunteers who may have other stuff on their plate (like jobs to have money for food and such).
So basically you made an error and now you are annoyed that you don’t have dt available…
Done with this…
It’s not that easy if he has edits with 5.5, or indeed cleared out the whole config dir (which has the databases with his edits…)
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Hi Guys
I am struggling a bit here to keep my temper because this personal criticism all sounds a bit unreasonable.
The official install page says 5.6 is available right now on OBS. I’m reporting it isn’t.
I currently trusted that page and now find I have no darktable and no timetable for having it. And 30,000 photos sitting in limbo. I’m not complaining, I’m not whinging, I’m not bitching, I’m not entitled, I don’t stop appreciating the amazing work the open source community does. I am very grateful. I’ve used darktable since the very first alpha release. But I am feeling anxious. Very anxious, about the vacuum of information, because I am currently stuck with no understanding of how long this hiatus will last. Yes, I could learn to compile from source. But that is an extreme measure for a photographer, not an IT dev.
So, while remaining very grateful, I’d also be very grateful if anyone knows what is going on with OBS and there is no need for sarcasm or grumpiness when I am simply reporting a gap between the documentation and reality.
Where does it say that?
This reads like a complaint to me.
I don’t agree. If a photographer can understand how to use a complex camera, the relationship of shutle speed and aperture, they should be able to copy and paste instructions. But you don’t even need to compile or wait, download the appimage and start using dt now.
We’ve gone off topic, so I will stop.
let’s talk about appimage. I’m a retired web developer and content manager/editor/author, I got paid for 40 years to be an IT worker. I’ve used linux seriously since 2016. But I don’t really understand the technical differences between snap, flatpak, deb, appimage and so on. maybe these things are second nature to people who grew up with Linux from childhood, but for me having to learn these things is not a pleasure, it’s friction. It gets in the way of doing useful work.
Last time i tried appimage it didn’t work, reporting out of date fuse libraries. i tried to fix this with community help and eventually wrecked my install and had to reformat my harddrive. Now you can have two quite distinct attitudes to this. You could say “fool, your own fault, you should have put the time and effort into learning the technical ropes or stick with Windows”. Or you could say “You know, one way or another, the enthusiasts over there have managed to create a product that is actually so useful that it has drawn a big audience who previously would have shied away, put off by the complexity and the remoteness between the pleasure of the technical challenges and the usefulness of the product”. Darktable has put itself in a similar position. It started as some kind of techie dream and by a lot of hard work has suddenly become the best product on the market. Which draws a non-technical audience. Which apparently the techies then resent.
I think I could offer something back to the community which would be a service to newbies. it would go something like this: “I don’t really understand the product very well but I sure know how to make good photos with it despite that”. It would be all about removing friction. But I very much suspect it would upset a lot of people who would likely say “But that’s not what i wrote that module to do”.
Curious, I think, when a project gets so effective it actually surpasses the dev’s intentions. I doubt raw therapee has this issue. It’s a techie’s paradise but not a product to move up to after you master Google Photos…
Where?
Latest darktable release is built for the following distribution releases:
Well this is generic statement, we don’t have the hand on OBS. I’ll update the text to be sure there is no confusion.
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Thank you. it’s all about expectations and I think the particular wording may mean something different for an experienced old hand linux user and other people.
What about the following text:
Latest darktable release is built for the following distribution releases (note that the binaries provided here are not synchronized with the official release meaning some delay are to be expected between the official release and the availability of the OBS binaries):
Any other proposal?
How about something like:
5.6 is now available as source for you to compile or an appimage for immediate installation.
It should also appear in the OBS at some point but the timing is outside our control. Here is a current listing of OBS options.
That way there are no expectations about timing being set and also the casual user will understand that darktable and OBS are different institutions.
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