darktable YouTube live

HELL YEA!!!

If you don’t have enough, I’ll think about sending some of mine as PlayRAWs here and give links :slight_smile:

Live tomorrow will be here : https://youtu.be/vP5m1YmSRw8

Shoooot ! :wink:

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I just made sure that this is also promoted on r/darktable on reddit. That is assuming that that is a good thing :wink:

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So it was YOU who caused my This link has already been posted within the last 14 days. error?

I’ll try to find those that are both “pretty” once done and that took me AGES to do :wink:

LOL
You gotta go fast!

See you tomorrow! :ok_hand:

Ohh! That’s movie time with the wife for me. If I watch this tutorial instead, I’ll have to sleep on the table, in the dark. :expressionless:
I’ll catch it on YouTube tomm :+1:

Anything is a movie, as long as you have popcorn. Try that… Maybe. :popcorn:

JCS1903710.DNG (74.6 MB) Sorry it is this file with pink color

This is not a raw file. It’s already demosaiced…

I was recommending darktable to my friend. We are both programmers and do photography as a side hobby. He was trying darktable this week but was not really positive about it. As a last effort I proposed him to watch yesterday live. His comment went something like this:

this program have so many options and mostly I heard “ups, not this”

He is back to Lightroom…

Then Lightroom might be the better solution for him. Most images are edited using sliders on a smartphone :wink:

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Are you sure your friend is programmer? I’ve rarelly heard about programmer wanting to put LESS options in or have less controll :wink:

Joking aside - yep, darktable has a bunch of stuff going on, but as @anon41087856 showed there’s still room to improve and with current set possibilities to get results “perfect” are there and don’t take much time.

As an aside: I have semi-pro photog friend. Who claims that he hates Adobe with passion and bought Affinity… and still uses lightroom because doesn’t “have time to learn” app he paid $$$ for. It’s a time skunk-cost: why learn something else when what I already know gets me the results I can predict?

Thanks @anon41087856 for the new screencast, again very interesting. I’ve got a follow-up question: Do you consider the edits you did corrective, i.e. setting the baseline for adding a “look” in the next step, or do you consider them final?

You know what? Maybe we are less programmers and more like integration engineers.

After many years of all stuff constantly breaking at the smallest change (MySQL breaking backward compatibility in small update, operating systems breaking after every upgrading, over engineered tools “giving you choice” by having so many configuration options that you need to spend weeks to make it work “acceptably” looking constantly all around docs and internet searching for “why the hell it’s not working?” - OpenStack anyone?) I’m starting to long for simple tools that just works and you don’t need to read enormous manuals and weeks of configuration tinkering to be productive.

More, I’m even more happy to use tools that actively take away my “choices” if this mean I’m more productive (love gofmt or prettier code formatters, code from everyone in every project looking exactly the same and after 3 years fixing bugs in 6M loc in C++ project and trying to understand what “magic from 1234 page of C++ specs” some programmer use this time I run away to Python and then later to Go that give even less “choice” with “only” 120 A4 spec that is understandable by most programmers and not only compiler devs).

Before getting day job I loved tinkering with Linux or programming for myself, now I hate it and I started getting afraid of upgrading Linux to new main versions… Or maybe I’m getting old (34y)?

Sorry for this rant.

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Same. But how many people here use a masked exposure correction to bring their highlights back ? Nope, you need to give them a single slider labelled “highlights” even though it’s a simple exposure algo going on inside.

Redoing darktable 3 artistic features in a nodal way would be feasible in 9 modules :

  1. gaussian blur
  2. bilateral blur
  3. guided filter
  4. RGB multiplication function
  5. RGB power function
  6. RGB offset function
  7. wavelets frequency separation
  8. local laplacian pyramid
  9. key framing (parametric masks).

Every current module is only a combination of these 9 basic blocs. Wire them together, to process the RGB part or the alpha mask, and you have everything you need. But you won’t have to wait for 2 weeks that people will fill the bugtracker for feature requests about “clarity” or “shadows/highlights” à la Lightroom.

That was all corrective stuff (in cinema, they call that a primary grade).

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Hm, it would be great if you could follow up with some creative grading of some of these images. Maybe there is one where you see some potential. Particularly, the night scenes with fire lose some mood by correction, it would be very interesting what and how you would bring it back.

The thing is I am truly unable to get creative on other people’s pictures.

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Too bad, I think that’s a missing workflow part which is not yet documented well. Maybe with one of your own images then? Excellent examples from popular genres processed end-to-end could certainly be helpful for people to build their own workflow. Of course, covering many genres is not possible for one person, but maybe one or two you feel comfortable with?

Don’t get me wrong, I am not asking for it but am just suggesting what I think would work well and fit well into your excellent live series.

Hi there Aurélien,

do you plan to do another round of video demonstration?
If so and if you are lacking topics, personally I would like to see your take on B&W conversions. That would probably be a nice bridge to the channel mixer topic as well… :wink:

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