I’ve decided to stop participating in the pixls.us forum. I have three reasons for doing so:
- I didn’t think it was fair to stop @anon11264400 from deleting his posts. I didn’t think he made the right choice when he suddenly decided to delete a lot of posts. But he’d done the same thing before and nobody stopped him then. If a clear forum policy had been implemented, announced, and posted as a result of the first time he deleted a bunch of his posts, then stopping him the second time would have been acceptable, if the time frame were consistent with the stated policy. But this wasn’t the case. Instead some administrator decided to act unilaterally and stop the deletion of his posts. I wanted to post this comment to the thread discussing the incident but the thread was closed before I had a chance to think through all the aspects of the decision:
- In light of responses to my attempt to discuss the social and cultural impact of how different photographers chose to photograph naked people, I can’t help but conclude that there is a strong misogynist element in the pixls forum leadership and user base. Please note:
- I’ve never had reason to use the word “misogynist” in my 10 years of using Linux and free software and participating in various other Linux forums and mailing lists.
- I’ve never had reason to use the word “misogynist” in my 5+ years of participating in GIMP development.
- I don’t recall ever actually using the word “misogynist” in a sentence, until I read the responses to my post about the social/political/cultural/etc implications of how we as photographers choose to portray naked people. In case anyone doesn’t know which threads I’m talking about, here they are:
- Here’s the final straw: I was vaguely aware that @gez hadn’t made any posts in a long time. I found out a couple days ago that Gez has been banned for life from the pixls forum for using the “f word” when speaking to an admin in the post about ownership of contents. Gez did apologize. He also did immediately try to delete the word, but an admin “undeleted” his post and made the record of Gez’s bad behavior permanent. People on this forum regularly excuse each other’s bad behavior and urge others to do the same (double-speak for don’t rock the boat I’m thinking). But Gez’s bad behavior wasn’t excused. Instead he was permanently silenced. I’m rather tempted to print the “f word” out in full, right here, right now, to give the forum admins a good reason to ban me too, but my Southern background and training just won’t let me.
Of course I don’t mean everyone on the pixls forum is a misogynist - “everyone” didn’t respond to my recent threads. I just mean certain individuals. I’d like to say “you know who you are”, but I doubt that you do.
One of my options is to continue participating in the pixls forum and try to educate enough users so that they might notice and respond to misogyny when it raises its ugly head. But I don’t think I’d succeed, and I do think responses from certain individuals would just make me feel really bad. So I’m planning to write an article on the topic and post it to my website, and leave it at that.
Please interpret my use of the word “misogyny” to include bias against people who are not only “not male” but also perhaps “not white, not upper class, not privileged, not straight hetorosexual,and whatever other “not” might be appropriate”. I can’t claim to have noticed other forms of bias in this forum, but I’m being inclusive here in case I’ve missed the obvious - it’s always far too easy to fail to observe when someone else is being dismissed or insulted. Though @aurelienpierre 's statement about how awful it is to have Gypsies as neighbors is hauntingly similar to statements made by whites in America who feel or felt threatened by black people moving into their previously all-white neighborhoods.
Personally I feel that the “great divide” currently facing our world is less and less about race/culture/religion/sexual orientation/gender/etc" and more and more about “people with lots of money and resources” vs “people with some/little/no money and resources”. Perhaps those of us with “some” just haven’t sufficiently taken notice of the changing times.
By “misogynist” I don’t just mean posts from @beachbum. I also mean for example @patdavid’s invitation that I post about “more nice pics” and his prior jocular invitation to “Post more naked people that will artistically get me out of my slump of not shooting photos!”, and his comment that women look nicest when wearing a smile but @patdavid looks nicest when wearing lots of clothes (in case you missed it Pat, that’s body image, an issue shared in common by men and women).
I don’t want to post “nice pics” for the misogynists on this forum to tear apart and feel good about themselves in the process. And right now I’m not wearing a smile.
@patdavid, please unsubscribe me from pixls.us.