Will 3.6 be able to read cr3 files from a R5?

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Judging from the preliminary release notes I am worried I might still not be able to edit my cr3 files with darktable.

Also I looked through the code on github and didn’t find the noise profiles for the R5. If no one is already working on them I can try to provide them. Anything else I can do for supporting the camera?

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I don’t think so. Work is being done now in rawspeed in order to gain CR3 support. It’ll probably miss the 3.6 freeze.

I don’t think you can have noise profile support without being able to demoasic the files first.

If you can code you can certainly help out, lots of discussion in the #pixls.us IRC room.

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Chances for 3.6.1? Or will this have to wait for 3.8?

makes sense, my bad

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Hard to tell since the work isn’t finished.

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Yeah, another stupid question from myself. I am sorry

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No need to be sorry.

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DNG for now I guess if you want to use DT… :slight_smile:

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Since I have been using darktable for over 10 years now it seems so. Can’t teach an older horse new tricks :wink:

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But you have a nice camera ::grin:

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Yeah definitely my favorite of the last 13 years of DSLRs :wink:

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It’ll take time to get used to the fact that R5 isn’t a DSLR :blush:

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You need time to get used to? Or do you think I don’t know the fact it’s a mirrorless camera?

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If you own something like that for sure you know…:wink:

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Now please back to topic. I have been reading the bug trackers of darktable, exiv2 and raw speed for months now, still i don’t know the internal communication and how high priority this is that’s why I was asking. It seems I’ll have to be patient. I’d love to help but I figure the file parser part is also a problem that is solved theoretically and practically in other implementations. So I’ll provide noise profiles and other stuff as soon as it’s possible

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Nah, I also call R6 and R5 a dslr all the time. It’s just to weird and long to call it mirrorless.

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Benjamin I’m with you on this. I have bought an EOS RP recently and I’m still waiting for a dt release supporting the cr3 files.

For the moment I’m using ART but it’s tough for me to have two different applications to manage my photos. Honestly I wasn’t expecting to use and enjoy the RP so much (my other camera is a Nikon D810) – when I bought it I was perfectly aware that there was still work to be done in terms of dt support but I remember thinking “well it’s just to test this camera and see if it’s worht investing time and energy in this sytem, meanwhile dt will add support for its raw files”… and look where I am now – in the past 3 months the only recent photos I took are all canon’s!

I have looked at the github repos for dt and rawspeed for hints and things to be done but I haven’t seen anything that I can contribute.

If you see this other discussion, I started to look at alternative ways to batch convert cr3 files to a format that can be read in dt but as far as I understand there is no output “raw” format that I can write to using python libraries.

I have recently found out another library that should allow writing to dng but haven’t looked into it very carefully (seems to be targeted to rasbperry pi cameras?):

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@piratenpanda

In addition to the above, I could probably help in making lens profiles with lensfun, once I buy some other lens; my only lens now is the RF50mm 1.8 which doesn’t really need that much correction honestly.

But the other lenses that are on my wishlist, they will definetly need lensfun support; the alternatives I’m evaluating are 24-240mm, 24-105 f4 and (if I really need a combat lens), the 24-105 f4-7.1

Now, I’m asking this just to know if you do have these lenses and are planning on doing this as well. Somerthing like, sharing the effort or maybe each of us can do work on one lens for example.

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I’m now using Adode DNG converter in wine which will do for the meantime :slight_smile: Thanks for the other project though!

According to Lensfun's coverage the RF24-105mm F4 L IS USM is already supported, at least for distortion and tca, vignetting is still left to do. I don’t plan to buy any of the lenses you mentioned, so feel free to go on without me :slight_smile:

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thanks Benjamin. Good info that the rf24-105 f4 is already there. It would be top of my list but it is more expensive than the others so I’m waiting to get some good second hand opportunity.

I’ll keep you (and the forum) updated if I do manage to get something out of these python libraries that I’ve found.

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Hey @aadm - if you have a EOS RP can you help us a bit? (also anybody who has CR3 Generator could help)

Here’s what we need from EOS RP:

  1. We need CR3 in RAW and CRAW form: Each camera should have two raw quality levels: RAW and CRAW (please notify me if there are any deviations). I need one file per ISO setting for each quality level. The files must be named accordingly: Canon_EOS_RP_CRAW_ISO_100.CR3 for example.
  2. We need ALL ISO settings: Please note that 1/3 ISO steps are set, i.e. I also need ISO 125, ISO 160 etc. In addition, all these cameras should have ISO L (50) and some HI-ISO values, sometimes referred to as H1 and H2.
  3. We need also all variants of crop mode (eg if you put APS-C lens on FF body): If your camera has an optional 1.6x crop mode, I need all photos for full frame AND with 1.6x crop enabled. Please add _CROP to the file name.
  4. Corect licence (CC-0): Before you take the photos, please enter the license “CC-0” in the camera menu under “Copyright”, i.e. the photos are then generally free.
  5. Correct content: About the scene: Something colorful (so no white wall or the like, no people either, cats are okay). It is ideal if all files depict the same scene. Lens, aperture, etc., it doesn’t matter. But make sure the scene is properly exposed and that edges aren’t black
  6. Sending: Then please pack all these CR3 files as a ZIP file and send me link here e.g. via Dropbox, WeTransfer, etc. (approximately 1.2-1.6 GiB).

we need a bit more combinations than raw.pixls.us recommends (all iso and crop variants) :slight_smile: But it should be doable.

I think I’ll create an additional post for that…

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