Seems its a GTK+ bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=784766
Yes, now I can reproduce on Win7/64. Hovering over something which has a tooltip makes it reproducible.
Confirmed. However, it seems to be a standard behaviour. The way to get out of it is to hover the mouse over the RT logo (color wheel) in the TASK BAR and you will see two windows, click on the file delete window to bring it forward.
This same behaviour is observed even in GIMP when you want to export a file and then go back to the main window. The export window seems hidden. By hovering over the program logo in the task bar, you can shift back to the small export as window.
Alt-tab twice also worked here
Keep in mind that once you update RT with a new cache directory (e.g. “RawTherapee5.4”), RT has to extract the thumbnails and data out of the image again. This is indeed very slow and annoying so you’d better move the “cache” sub-folder to the new location after install, then start RT. It will find its child again without any lag.
Forget this if the cache folder has the same name over different version.
Btw, if you move a complete directory on your HDD from your OS instead of doing it from RT, the thumbnail will have to be recreated again too, since the filename of the thumbs include an MD5 of the full path of the image, so it can handle several files with identical filename, but not at same location.
Hi’ Morgan_Hardwood
Great news! It will be very interesting to test the new facilities.
I have just downloaded RT 5.4, the Windows 10 version, and 5.3 is also installed.
In 5.3 there is a default profile for raw photos as part of the bundled profiles, this is missing in 5.4. Where do I find the profiles mentioned in the release notes: “New default processing profiles, now the default look for raw photos closely matches the out-of-camera look with regard to tones and includes lens distortion and vignetting correction”.
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The old default profile is deleted, the new default will be automatically set the first time you run 5.4.
Hi’
Thank you for a quick response.
I use dynamic profiles in 5.3. When I ran 5.4 for the first time RT just copied the 5.3 settings, so no default profile was created automatically. Should I manually select one of the new auto-matched-curves each time I open a raw photo?
Set your default profile for raw photos to Auto-Matched Curve - ISO Low.pp3. Adopt dynamic profiles accordingly.
Hello there!
I’m new on this forum, please excuse me if I ask something what is already asked. I didn’t find anything about my problem. I used rawtherapee 5.3 on linux and few days ago it’s upgraded to 5.4. Raw images from my camera are about 15 mb, and after editing in 5.3 they was about 10mb, but now, after editing in 5.4 they are about only 2.5 mb. For an image over 4000 px it’s too little. I’m afraid that this reduction is not without loss in quality. What are your experiences? Are there any adjustments? I’m pretty new to using the rawtherapee, but so far I’ve been overwhelmed.
Hi @dekao, and welcome to the forum!
Can you give us a bit more info? Are you exporting to JPG? Are you using the same settings (quality and subsampling) that you were using with 5.3? Can you share an example? Thanks!
Hi @agriggio!
Yes, I export to jpg. I did not touch the settings, unless they were automatically changed at the upgrade.
IIRC there was a change in the default compression for JPEG files that went in 5.4, so this might not be a problem. You need to share some example to make sure though
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@dekao the change in compression involved TIFF and PNG, not JPEG.
How did you export to JPG? You didn’t “Fast Export” by any chance, did you?
Show screenshots or even better, a video recording.
But first see Getting Started - RawPedia
@Morgan_Hardwood Dedicated is checked in fast export options, is it how it should be?
@agriggio
I uploaded both, raw and processed jpg, with pp3 files. _DSC3846.NEF (12.4 MB)
This jpg has 3.6MB. It’s only imported and exported from rawtherapee, for example, without processing with any tool. I’m sorry for three posts, forum allows only one attachment per post for new users.
You should not be using Fast Export for normal use. I will make that more clear in the documentation. The image you uploaded was not saved using Fast Export.
Saving: Saving Images - RawPedia
It was processed using the tools enabled in the default profile. If it wasn’t processed with any tools, it would look like this:
or even like this:
Learn more here:
http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Getting_Started
Editor - RawPedia (this article needs to be updated for RT5.4)
http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Default (this is obsolete for 5.4 but worth reading)
There is nothing wrong with your uploaded image. Set JPG compression quality to 92/balanced and you’re fine.
Hi’ Morgan_Hardwood
I have tested 5.4 - the auto-matched-curve profiles/facility during Easter.
Excellent! The result is very, very close to the JPG image produced by the camera, without having to “mess around with” custom input profiles and LCP files. Congratulations to a very good result.
- I always underexpose my photos to limit the risk of blown out highlights. Thus the jpg image is too dark as well as the auto-matched raw image and I have to apply a positive exposure compensation. I very often set the black point using the black slider and the white point by moving the top right point in the luminance/luminance lab diagram. Does RT perform the auto-match before processing the exposure compensation and other settings?
- Low ISO profile – no default sharpening? In my opinion most digital photos would benefit from sharpening
- High ISO profile – no hot pixel filter turned on?
- Noise reduction have changed from quality:standard/high to mode:conservative/aggressive, has the algorithm been changed? Aggressive sounds as something you should avoid?
- Expert mode panels are a tiny bit wider than the other panels.
- A very good idea to move complicated tools to the new expert mode tab. Maybe it would be even better to create at basic tab with all the, yes, basic tools maybe even in simple versions. As basic tools one will also need white balance, sharpening, noise reduction, cropping, straighten, perspective correction and maybe local contrast, but maybe not tone mapping, HDR tone mapping and Lab adjustments.
I am looking forward to study the updated documentation and also the pop-up text you normally get when placing the courser over a subject…o)!